Failing Over Cluster Resources ----

Installed the passive node in a SCC successfully after all ...

In ex2003 I could judt open the Cluster Admin Console right click and Move
group to failover the resources.

Is this still the same with Exhange 2007 clusters???? OR I have to use the
command shell???

Advise Please.

Thanks,

Hi there,

You can use the Command Shell, move-clusteredmailboxserver.

With SP1 you can also do this in the Exchange Management Console too. Let me
know if you need details on that - although if you locate the CMS it should
be self explanatory.

Note that you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering anymore.

Oliver

Oliver thanks.

I am running Exchange 2007 with SP1. So I should be able to do it using the
Cluster Admin Console - Correct?????

I dont have a test env. to test it.

What you mean by ...you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering
anymore.




Thanks,




"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> You can use the Command Shell, move-clusteredmailboxserver.
>
> With SP1 you can also do this in the Exchange Management Console too. Let me
> know if you need details on that - although if you locate the CMS it should
> be self explanatory.
>
> Note that you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering anymore.
>
> Oliver
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>

Yes please provide details on howto do from Exchange Management Console??

Thanks,






"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> You can use the Command Shell, move-clusteredmailboxserver.
>
> With SP1 you can also do this in the Exchange Management Console too. Let me
> know if you need details on that - although if you locate the CMS it should
> be self explanatory.
>
> Note that you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering anymore.
>
> Oliver
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>

Why not? I normally do so with the command:

CLUSTER GROUP "Cluster Group" /MOVE:

It just seems like good practice to me. But I'm interested in any
documentation that explains why it isn't a good idea and/or isn't necessary.
--
Ed Crowley MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
..

"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote in message
news:uYgb3hmVKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi there,
>
> You can use the Command Shell, move-clusteredmailboxserver.
>
> With SP1 you can also do this in the Exchange Management Console too. Let
> me know if you need details on that - although if you locate the CMS it
> should be self explanatory.
>
> Note that you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering anymore.
>
> Oliver
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks Ed.

I am running Windows 2003Ent. with Exchange 2007.

Just want to confirm -

on my passive node in my computer I only see C: drive. And under my disk
management I see the SAN drives with red stop sign says ..unknown and
unreadable. No drive letters visible yet.

Is this because its passive node I guess ...once I fail over this should be
ok as this is ok on my active node?????

Advise Please.

Thanks,






"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> Why not? I normally do so with the command:
>
> CLUSTER GROUP "Cluster Group" /MOVE:
>
> It just seems like good practice to me. But I'm interested in any
> documentation that explains why it isn't a good idea and/or isn't necessary.
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..
>
> "Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote in message
> news:uYgb3hmVKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > You can use the Command Shell, move-clusteredmailboxserver.
> >
> > With SP1 you can also do this in the Exchange Management Console too. Let
> > me know if you need details on that - although if you locate the CMS it
> > should be self explanatory.
> >
> > Note that you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering anymore.
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> .
>

It's been so long since I've done an SCC I'll have to leave that for someone
else to answer. Now that CCR is available I can't fathom the business value
of SCC.
--
Ed Crowley MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
..

"WildPacket" wrote in message
news:4775B0FF-CF07-495B-8AEA-5E487B7AE148@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Ed.
>
> I am running Windows 2003Ent. with Exchange 2007.
>
> Just want to confirm -
>
> on my passive node in my computer I only see C: drive. And under my disk
> management I see the SAN drives with red stop sign says ..unknown and
> unreadable. No drive letters visible yet.
>
> Is this because its passive node I guess ...once I fail over this should
> be
> ok as this is ok on my active node?????
>
> Advise Please.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Why not? I normally do so with the command:
>>
>> CLUSTER GROUP "Cluster Group" /MOVE:
>>
>> It just seems like good practice to me. But I'm interested in any
>> documentation that explains why it isn't a good idea and/or isn't
>> necessary.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley MVP
>> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
>> ..
>>
>> "Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote in message
>> news:uYgb3hmVKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > You can use the Command Shell, move-clusteredmailboxserver.
>> >
>> > With SP1 you can also do this in the Exchange Management Console too.
>> > Let
>> > me know if you need details on that - although if you locate the CMS it
>> > should be self explanatory.
>> >
>> > Note that you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering
>> > anymore.
>> >
>> > Oliver
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> .
>>

Ok .. I moved group last night using the Clus Admin Console and the exchnage
group failed over nicely but ran into issues when I move the other group it
failed on Tivoli Backup Resource now have to figure that out.

How can I confiugre the opiton where if any resource fails to move - so dont
fail the entire group .. I cannot seem to recall .. I know its in there some
small check box ...affect the group ...restart soemthign like that????

Advise Please.

Thanks,



"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> It's been so long since I've done an SCC I'll have to leave that for someone
> else to answer. Now that CCR is available I can't fathom the business value
> of SCC.
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..
>
> "WildPacket" wrote in message
> news:4775B0FF-CF07-495B-8AEA-5E487B7AE148@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Ed.
> >
> > I am running Windows 2003Ent. with Exchange 2007.
> >
> > Just want to confirm -
> >
> > on my passive node in my computer I only see C: drive. And under my disk
> > management I see the SAN drives with red stop sign says ..unknown and
> > unreadable. No drive letters visible yet.
> >
> > Is this because its passive node I guess ...once I fail over this should
> > be
> > ok as this is ok on my active node?????
> >
> > Advise Please.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Why not? I normally do so with the command:
> >>
> >> CLUSTER GROUP "Cluster Group" /MOVE:
> >>
> >> It just seems like good practice to me. But I'm interested in any
> >> documentation that explains why it isn't a good idea and/or isn't
> >> necessary.
> >> --
> >> Ed Crowley MVP
> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> >> ..
> >>
> >> "Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote in message
> >> news:uYgb3hmVKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi there,
> >> >
> >> > You can use the Command Shell, move-clusteredmailboxserver.
> >> >
> >> > With SP1 you can also do this in the Exchange Management Console too.
> >> > Let
> >> > me know if you need details on that - although if you locate the CMS it
> >> > should be self explanatory.
> >> >
> >> > Note that you do not failover the cluster in failover clustering
> >> > anymore.
> >> >
> >> > Oliver
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
> .
>

Hi,

Sorry been on the TechNet forums :-)

Using cluster.exe bypasses Exchange healthchecks before the move:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../aa998282.aspx

Oliver



"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote in message
news:ucVqwqnVKHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why not? I normally do so with the command:
>
> CLUSTER GROUP "Cluster Group" /MOVE:
>
> It just seems like good practice to me. But I'm interested in any
> documentation that explains why it isn't a good idea and/or isn't
> necessary.
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

Hey WP,

Yes the passive node will not be able to see the disks, as these are in the
Exchange SCC Cluster Group and are with the active CMS node.

So don't worry.

Oliver

"WildPacket" wrote in message
news:4775B0FF-CF07-495B-8AEA-5E487B7AE148@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Ed.
>
> I am running Windows 2003Ent. with Exchange 2007.
>
> Just want to confirm -
>
> on my passive node in my computer I only see C: drive. And under my disk
> management I see the SAN drives with red stop sign says ..unknown and
> unreadable. No drive letters visible yet.
>
> Is this because its passive node I guess ...once I fail over this should
> be
> ok as this is ok on my active node?????
>
> Advise Please.
>
> Thanks,