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Exchange 2000-2003 upgrade and rebuild server

#1
I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000. When I

purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to load

Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to install

Exchange 2003.

A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually

corrupted the SMTP queue. The fix was to disable the queue and create a new

one. The residual effect is that the folder associated with the original

SMTP queue is still corrupt. This obviously concerns me, that's why I want

to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE it.

What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows Server 2003

(already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server 2003. I have an

extra server I could use to help in this process but I'm not sure how to

proceed.

One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and Exchange

2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over. But then I want to

rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I could do that since it's

the first site.

Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this that may

help me out?

Thanks in advance

Guy
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

#2
Guy <Guy> wrote:
> I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000. When I
> purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
> load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
> install Exchange 2003.

> A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
> corrupted the SMTP queue. The fix was to disable the queue and
> create a new one. The residual effect is that the folder associated
> with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt. This obviously
> concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
> it.

> What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
> Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
> 2003. I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
> I'm not sure how to proceed.

> One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
> Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over. But
> then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
> could do that since it's the first site.

> Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
> that may help me out?

> Thanks in advance

> Guy


First question: is your existing server a DC?

If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if at

all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think you

do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will want

an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if I'm

using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy

workstation box, you know....

From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You

could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into

the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then

remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from

the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are loads

of little things to do in the process.
 
G

Guy Kerr

#3
No the server is not a DC.

So there's no issue about rebuilding the original Exchange 2000 box even if

it's the first server in the site? I thought this was always an issue?

Obviously I don't rebuild Exchange too often but I had a recollection that

this causes problems.

Thanks for the "high level", any idea where I can get the more detailed

instructions about the entire process?

Thanks again!

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:


> Guy <Guy> wrote:
> > I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000. When I
> > purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
> > load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
> > install Exchange 2003.
> > A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
> > corrupted the SMTP queue. The fix was to disable the queue and
> > create a new one. The residual effect is that the folder associated
> > with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt. This obviously
> > concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
> > it.
> > What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
> > Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
> > 2003. I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
> > I'm not sure how to proceed.
> > One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
> > Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over. But
> > then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
> > could do that since it's the first site.
> > Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
> > that may help me out?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Guy


> First question: is your existing server a DC?
> If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if at
> all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think you
> do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will want
> an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if I'm
> using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy
> workstation box, you know....

> From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You
> could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into
> the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then
> remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from
> the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are loads
> of little things to do in the process.

>
 
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Ed Crowley [MVP]

#4
If you're going to upgrade now, why not go to a current version? Exchange

2007 is way beyond the early adopter phase now.

You should always use this method to migrate a server:

http://www.exchangefaq.org/faq/Exchange-2000/Exchange-2000-Move-Server-Method-/sectionID/1024

plus http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931

Ed Crowley MVP

"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

> .

"Guy Kerr" <GuyKerr> wrote in message

news:AF9088B1-CBA6-45B1-A1B5-58B1E0B54731@microsoft.com...
> No the server is not a DC.

> So there's no issue about rebuilding the original Exchange 2000 box even
> if
> it's the first server in the site? I thought this was always an issue?
> Obviously I don't rebuild Exchange too often but I had a recollection that
> this causes problems.

> Thanks for the "high level", any idea where I can get the more detailed
> instructions about the entire process?

> Thanks again!

> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
> > Guy <Guy> wrote:
> > > I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000. When I
> > > purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
> > > load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
> > > install Exchange 2003.
> >> > A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
> > > corrupted the SMTP queue. The fix was to disable the queue and
> > > create a new one. The residual effect is that the folder associated
> > > with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt. This obviously
> > > concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
> > > it.
> >> > What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
> > > Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
> > > 2003. I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
> > > I'm not sure how to proceed.
> >> > One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
> > > Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over. But
> > > then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
> > > could do that since it's the first site.
> >> > Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
> > > that may help me out?
> >> > Thanks in advance
> >> > Guy

>

>> First question: is your existing server a DC?
> > If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if
> > at
> > all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think
> > you
> > do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will
> > want
> > an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if
> > I'm
> > using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy
> > workstation box, you know....
>

>> From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You
> > could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into
> > the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then
> > remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from
> > the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are
> > loads
> > of little things to do in the process.
>

>
>
>
>
>>
 
G

Guy Kerr

#5
It's a cost issue. They (my client) already purchased Exchange 2003 and

don't want to incur any more expenses at this time.

Thanks for the migration docs - I'll take a look.

"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:


> If you're going to upgrade now, why not go to a current version? Exchange
> 2007 is way beyond the early adopter phase now.

> You should always use this method to migrate a server:
> http://www.exchangefaq.org/faq/Exchange-2000/Exchange-2000-Move-Server-Method-/sectionID/1024
> plus http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931
> > Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..

> "Guy Kerr" <GuyKerr> wrote in message
> news:AF9088B1-CBA6-45B1-A1B5-58B1E0B54731@microsoft.com...
> > No the server is not a DC.
> > So there's no issue about rebuilding the original Exchange 2000 box even
> > if
> > it's the first server in the site? I thought this was always an issue?
> > Obviously I don't rebuild Exchange too often but I had a recollection that
> > this causes problems.
> > Thanks for the "high level", any idea where I can get the more detailed
> > instructions about the entire process?
> > Thanks again!
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> >
> >> Guy <Guy> wrote:
> >> > I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000. When I
> >> > purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
> >> > load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
> >> > install Exchange 2003.
> >> >> > A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
> >> > corrupted the SMTP queue. The fix was to disable the queue and
> >> > create a new one. The residual effect is that the folder associated
> >> > with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt. This obviously
> >> > concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
> >> > it.
> >> >> > What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
> >> > Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
> >> > 2003. I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
> >> > I'm not sure how to proceed.
> >> >> > One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
> >> > Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over. But
> >> > then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
> >> > could do that since it's the first site.
> >> >> > Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
> >> > that may help me out?
> >> >> > Thanks in advance
> >> >> > Guy
> >
> >> First question: is your existing server a DC?
> >> If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if
> >> at
> >> all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think
> >> you
> >> do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will
> >> want
> >> an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if
> >> I'm
> >> using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy
> >> workstation box, you know....
> >
> >> From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You
> >> could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into
> >> the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then
> >> remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from
> >> the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are
> >> loads
> >> of little things to do in the process.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>


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