importing OE folders(dbx)/emails/message rules into Windows 7

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Sportsluvr

PA Bear,

I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows Mail,
which was the successor to Outlook Express.

1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to transfer
all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to whatever
the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that has
offline access like Outlook Express)??

2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer into)
the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
Express?

Thanks very much for your help! :)

 
B

Bruce Hagen

The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have
Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and Vista.

If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and rules.
You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your feet wet. You
can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent messages will only
be in the Sent Items folder for the client used.

In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced - Check:
Leave a copy of messages on the server.

In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy your
allotted space you get from your server.

Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.

Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
program. To revert back to OE:

Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.

Make OE the default e-mail client:
http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx

For links in e-mail:
http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
> PA Bear,
>
> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
> Mail,
> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>
> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to transfer
> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to whatever
> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
> has
> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>
> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer into)
> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
> Express?
>
> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>
>


 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Asked/Answered in another thread.

Sportsluvr wrote:
> PA Bear,
>
> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
> Mail,
> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>
> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to transfer
> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to whatever
> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
> has
> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>
> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer into)
> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
> Express?
>
> Thanks very much for your help! :)


 
F

Fred

This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to transfer
my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains an email program from
Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can you tell me how?

"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have
> Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and Vista.
>
> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and
> rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your feet
> wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent
> messages will only be in the Sent Items folder for the client used.
>
> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced - Check:
> Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>
> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy your
> allotted space you get from your server.
>
> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>
> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>
> In your newsreader:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>
> On the Web:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>
> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
> program. To revert back to OE:
>
> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
> Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
>
> Make OE the default e-mail client:
> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>
> For links in e-mail:
> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
> >
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
>
>
> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>> PA Bear,
>>
>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
>> Mail,
>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>
>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to transfer
>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to
>> whatever
>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
>> has
>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>
>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
>> into)
>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
>> Express?
>>
>> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>>
>>

>


 
S

Sportsluvr

Bruce,

Thanks! I dowloaded it and started 'test' using it just to get familar as
I'll have to use it when WIN7 comes out. I will miss OE- but since I have 10
yrs of emails I will keep some older PC's on XP. I hope WLM won't have the
storage/corruption issues that OE's dbx folder files can have if they exceed
a certain size.

Few of follow-up questions (I'll copy this to WLM forum too for other
viewers to benefit):
1) why after installing it (and it recognized I had OE6 installed and auto
imported the dbx folders) were all sub-folders within my inbox (i.e.
Inbox-->Real Estate) placed under 'Stoarge Folders' area? Also, I read on
other forum for WLM that you can't put 'stoarge folders' higher up the tree-
will alphabetical sorting be available for folder sorting (not affecting
subfolders under a primary folder) in future version?

2) my contacts list from OE6 was not auto installed and I had to go in and
somehow figure out how to import them in- is this a known issue? Can you
have a short-cut way to have part of mail screen show your contacts list
similar to how OE6 appears in lower left corner?

3) when I right-click properties for a folder it doesn't give me the
location, so I have no way of knowing where each folder is on C: drive so I
can copy it to an external HD for back-up- where are the folders located?
[btw I use Express Assist program Vers 7 for OE back-up and found out today
new Version 9 supports WLM along with OE and WM...so apparently you can
transfer back-ups b/t the three prgrams]

4) when you click on on 'sync' and select account you want to check for
emails, is there a way for the pop-up box indicating
'tasks/status/connection' to show up without having to go back and reclick
the sync button and select mail account again?

5) why doesn't WLM show for instance it is downloading for instance message
'1 of 15', '2 of 15' ect??.. ..instead it says downloading 'message 1',
'message 2' etc. but not message '1 of 15' etc? is there a way to get that
detail in your prefs so it appears each time you manually click to receieve
new messages from a specific pop3 account?

Thanks very much Bruce!! Very appreciated! :)

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have
> Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and Vista.
>
> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and rules.
> You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your feet wet. You
> can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent messages will only
> be in the Sent Items folder for the client used.
>
> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced - Check:
> Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>
> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy your
> allotted space you get from your server.
>
> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>
> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>
> In your newsreader:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>
> On the Web:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>
> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
> program. To revert back to OE:
>
> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
> Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
>
> Make OE the default e-mail client:
> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>
> For links in e-mail:
> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
> >
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
>
>
> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
> > PA Bear,
> >
> > I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
> > Mail,
> > which was the successor to Outlook Express.
> >
> > 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to transfer
> > all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to whatever
> > the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
> > has
> > offline access like Outlook Express)??
> >
> > 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer into)
> > the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
> > Express?
> >
> > Thanks very much for your help! :)
> >
> >

>
>

 
B

Bruce Hagen

You're welcome, but you /really/ need to ask someone in the WLMail
newsgroups your follow-up questions for the best answers and advice.

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
news:62DA7A76-DD98-43AD-B141-961CE9772DD4@microsoft.com...
> Bruce,
>
> Thanks! I dowloaded it and started 'test' using it just to get familar as
> I'll have to use it when WIN7 comes out. I will miss OE- but since I have
> 10
> yrs of emails I will keep some older PC's on XP. I hope WLM won't have
> the
> storage/corruption issues that OE's dbx folder files can have if they
> exceed
> a certain size.
>
> Few of follow-up questions (I'll copy this to WLM forum too for other
> viewers to benefit):
> 1) why after installing it (and it recognized I had OE6 installed and
> auto
> imported the dbx folders) were all sub-folders within my inbox (i.e.
> Inbox-->Real Estate) placed under 'Stoarge Folders' area? Also, I read
> on
> other forum for WLM that you can't put 'stoarge folders' higher up the
> tree-
> will alphabetical sorting be available for folder sorting (not affecting
> subfolders under a primary folder) in future version?
>
> 2) my contacts list from OE6 was not auto installed and I had to go in
> and
> somehow figure out how to import them in- is this a known issue? Can you
> have a short-cut way to have part of mail screen show your contacts list
> similar to how OE6 appears in lower left corner?
>
> 3) when I right-click properties for a folder it doesn't give me the
> location, so I have no way of knowing where each folder is on C: drive so
> I
> can copy it to an external HD for back-up- where are the folders located?
> [btw I use Express Assist program Vers 7 for OE back-up and found out
> today
> new Version 9 supports WLM along with OE and WM...so apparently you can
> transfer back-ups b/t the three prgrams]
>
> 4) when you click on on 'sync' and select account you want to check for
> emails, is there a way for the pop-up box indicating
> 'tasks/status/connection' to show up without having to go back and reclick
> the sync button and select mail account again?
>
> 5) why doesn't WLM show for instance it is downloading for instance
> message
> '1 of 15', '2 of 15' ect??.. ..instead it says downloading 'message 1',
> 'message 2' etc. but not message '1 of 15' etc? is there a way to get
> that
> detail in your prefs so it appears each time you manually click to
> receieve
> new messages from a specific pop3 account?
>
> Thanks very much Bruce!! Very appreciated! :)
>
> "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
>
>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have
>> Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and Vista.
>>
>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and
>> rules.
>> You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your feet wet.
>> You
>> can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent messages will
>> only
>> be in the Sent Items folder for the client used.
>>
>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced -
>> Check:
>> Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>
>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy
>> your
>> allotted space you get from your server.
>>
>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>
>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>
>> In your newsreader:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>
>> On the Web:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>
>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
>> program. To revert back to OE:
>>
>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
>> Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
>>
>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>
>> For links in e-mail:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>> >>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>> > PA Bear,
>> >
>> > I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
>> > Mail,
>> > which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>> >
>> > 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>> > transfer
>> > all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to
>> > whatever
>> > the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
>> > has
>> > offline access like Outlook Express)??
>> >
>> > 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
>> > into)
>> > the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
>> > Express?
>> >
>> > Thanks very much for your help! :)
>> >
>> >

>>
>>


 
W

...winston

You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on the Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into
Windows Live Mail(WLM) and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive, then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to
that saved folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in WLM's Storage Folders\Imported folders.

Create your email accounts separately and before importing.

Each email account in WLM will have a separate set of folders(unlike OE which has a common Inbox).

Once done, create rules accordingly.

WLM supports Pop3, Http(Hotmail accounts), and IMAP. Rules do not work on Http accounts.
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains
> an email program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can you tell me how?
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with
>> XP and Vista.
>>
>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want
>> to get your feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent messages will only be in the Sent Items
>> folder for the client used.
>>
>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced - Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>
>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy your allotted space you get from your server.
>>
>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>
>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>
>> In your newsreader:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>
>> On the Web:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>
>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail program. To revert back to OE:
>>
>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults | Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for
>> Outlook Express.
>>
>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>
>> For links in e-mail:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>> >>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>> PA Bear,
>>>
>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows Mail,
>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to transfer
>>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to whatever
>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that has
>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>
>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer into)
>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
>>> Express?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

 
S

Sportsluvr

Bruce,

I did...posted those questions under the forum 'Windows Live Mail Desktop'.
:)

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

> You're welcome, but you /really/ need to ask someone in the WLMail
> newsgroups your follow-up questions for the best answers and advice.
> >
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
> news:62DA7A76-DD98-43AD-B141-961CE9772DD4@microsoft.com...
> > Bruce,
> >
> > Thanks! I dowloaded it and started 'test' using it just to get familar as
> > I'll have to use it when WIN7 comes out. I will miss OE- but since I have
> > 10
> > yrs of emails I will keep some older PC's on XP. I hope WLM won't have
> > the
> > storage/corruption issues that OE's dbx folder files can have if they
> > exceed
> > a certain size.
> >
> > Few of follow-up questions (I'll copy this to WLM forum too for other
> > viewers to benefit):
> > 1) why after installing it (and it recognized I had OE6 installed and
> > auto
> > imported the dbx folders) were all sub-folders within my inbox (i.e.
> > Inbox-->Real Estate) placed under 'Stoarge Folders' area? Also, I read
> > on
> > other forum for WLM that you can't put 'stoarge folders' higher up the
> > tree-
> > will alphabetical sorting be available for folder sorting (not affecting
> > subfolders under a primary folder) in future version?
> >
> > 2) my contacts list from OE6 was not auto installed and I had to go in
> > and
> > somehow figure out how to import them in- is this a known issue? Can you
> > have a short-cut way to have part of mail screen show your contacts list
> > similar to how OE6 appears in lower left corner?
> >
> > 3) when I right-click properties for a folder it doesn't give me the
> > location, so I have no way of knowing where each folder is on C: drive so
> > I
> > can copy it to an external HD for back-up- where are the folders located?
> > [btw I use Express Assist program Vers 7 for OE back-up and found out
> > today
> > new Version 9 supports WLM along with OE and WM...so apparently you can
> > transfer back-ups b/t the three prgrams]
> >
> > 4) when you click on on 'sync' and select account you want to check for
> > emails, is there a way for the pop-up box indicating
> > 'tasks/status/connection' to show up without having to go back and reclick
> > the sync button and select mail account again?
> >
> > 5) why doesn't WLM show for instance it is downloading for instance
> > message
> > '1 of 15', '2 of 15' ect??.. ..instead it says downloading 'message 1',
> > 'message 2' etc. but not message '1 of 15' etc? is there a way to get
> > that
> > detail in your prefs so it appears each time you manually click to
> > receieve
> > new messages from a specific pop3 account?
> >
> > Thanks very much Bruce!! Very appreciated! :)
> >
> > "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
> >
> >> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have
> >> Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and Vista.
> >>
> >> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and
> >> rules.
> >> You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your feet wet.
> >> You
> >> can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent messages will
> >> only
> >> be in the Sent Items folder for the client used.
> >>
> >> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced -
> >> Check:
> >> Leave a copy of messages on the server.
> >>
> >> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy
> >> your
> >> allotted space you get from your server.
> >>
> >> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >>
> >> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
> >>
> >> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
> >>
> >> In your newsreader:
> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
> >>
> >> On the Web:
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
> >>
> >> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
> >> program. To revert back to OE:
> >>
> >> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
> >> Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
> >>
> >> Make OE the default e-mail client:
> >> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
> >>
> >> For links in e-mail:
> >> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
> >> > >>
> >> Bruce Hagen
> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
> >> Imperial Beach, CA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
> >> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
> >> > PA Bear,
> >> >
> >> > I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
> >> > Mail,
> >> > which was the successor to Outlook Express.
> >> >
> >> > 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
> >> > transfer
> >> > all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to
> >> > whatever
> >> > the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
> >> > has
> >> > offline access like Outlook Express)??
> >> >
> >> > 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
> >> > into)
> >> > the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
> >> > Express?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks very much for your help! :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

>
>

 
F

Fred

I know what you're saying, but where is "the entire OE store folder"? The
files that I back up are indeed dbx. files that are found in Documents and
Settings/my name/local settings/identities/microsoft/outlook express under
the identity I need until I see the dbx. files I want. But I'm not sure
just exactly what and where the entire OE store folder is. Can you point me
to it? Thanks.

"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:urcufYPLKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on the
> Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into Windows Live Mail(WLM)
> and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
> I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive,
> then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to that saved
> folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in WLM's Storage
> Folders\Imported folders.
>
> Create your email accounts separately and before importing.
>
> Each email account in WLM will have a separate set of folders(unlike OE
> which has a common Inbox).
>
> Once done, create rules accordingly.
>
> WLM supports Pop3, Http(Hotmail accounts), and IMAP. Rules do not work on
> Http accounts.
> > ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to
>> transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains an email
>> program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can you
>> tell me how?
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have
>>> Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and Vista.
>>>
>>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and
>>> rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your
>>> feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent
>>> messages will only be in the Sent Items folder for the client used.
>>>
>>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced -
>>> Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>>
>>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy
>>> your allotted space you get from your server.
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>
>>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>>
>>> In your newsreader:
>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>
>>> On the Web:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>
>>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
>>> program. To revert back to OE:
>>>
>>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
>>> Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>>
>>> For links in e-mail:
>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>> >>>
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>>> PA Bear,
>>>>
>>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
>>>> Mail,
>>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>>
>>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>>>> transfer
>>>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to
>>>> whatever
>>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
>>>> has
>>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>>
>>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
>>>> into)
>>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
>>>> Express?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>


 
W

...winston

The folder containing your dbx files **is** the store folder.
Both links below show you how to find it.

http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm

http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/qt/et101202.htm

...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OSpxBDQLKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I know what you're saying, but where is "the entire OE store folder"? The
> files that I back up are indeed dbx. files that are found in Documents and
> Settings/my name/local settings/identities/microsoft/outlook express under
> the identity I need until I see the dbx. files I want. But I'm not sure
> just exactly what and where the entire OE store folder is. Can you point me
> to it? Thanks.
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:urcufYPLKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on the
>> Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into Windows Live Mail(WLM)
>> and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
>> I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive,
>> then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to that saved
>> folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in WLM's Storage
>> Folders\Imported folders.
>>
>> Create your email accounts separately and before importing.
>>
>> Each email account in WLM will have a separate set of folders(unlike OE
>> which has a common Inbox).
>>
>> Once done, create rules accordingly.
>>
>> WLM supports Pop3, Http(Hotmail accounts), and IMAP. Rules do not work on
>> Http accounts.
>> >> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to
>>> transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains an email
>>> program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can you
>>> tell me how?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have
>>>> Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and Vista.
>>>>
>>>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and
>>>> rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your
>>>> feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent
>>>> messages will only be in the Sent Items folder for the client used.
>>>>
>>>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced -
>>>> Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>>>
>>>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy
>>>> your allotted space you get from your server.
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>>
>>>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> In your newsreader:
>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>
>>>> On the Web:
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>
>>>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
>>>> program. To revert back to OE:
>>>>
>>>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
>>>> Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
>>>>
>>>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>>>
>>>> For links in e-mail:
>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>>> >>>>
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>>>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>>>> PA Bear,
>>>>>
>>>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
>>>>> Mail,
>>>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>>>>> transfer
>>>>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to
>>>>> whatever
>>>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that
>>>>> has
>>>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
>>>>> into)
>>>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
>>>>> Express?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>

 
F

Fred

You stated that I'd have to locate the "folder containing the dbx files on
the Windows 7 machine". Why would there be dbx files on Windows 7? I
thought that Outlook Express was officially gone from the new Windows. Or
are there other programs besides OE that use dbx files?

"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23taReRSLKHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The folder containing your dbx files **is** the store folder.
> Both links below show you how to find it.
>
> http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm
>
> http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/qt/et101202.htm
>
>
> > ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OSpxBDQLKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I know what you're saying, but where is "the entire OE store folder"?
>> The files that I back up are indeed dbx. files that are found in
>> Documents and Settings/my name/local
>> settings/identities/microsoft/outlook express under the identity I need
>> until I see the dbx. files I want. But I'm not sure just exactly what
>> and where the entire OE store folder is. Can you point me to it?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:urcufYPLKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on
>>> the Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into Windows Live
>>> Mail(WLM) and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
>>> I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive,
>>> then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to that saved
>>> folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in WLM's
>>> Storage Folders\Imported folders.
>>>
>>> Create your email accounts separately and before importing.
>>>
>>> Each email account in WLM will have a separate set of folders(unlike OE
>>> which has a common Inbox).
>>>
>>> Once done, create rules accordingly.
>>>
>>> WLM supports Pop3, Http(Hotmail accounts), and IMAP. Rules do not work
>>> on Http accounts.
>>> >>> ...winston
>>> ms-mvp mail
>>>
>>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to
>>>> transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains an email
>>>> program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can you
>>>> tell me how?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you
>>>>> have Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and
>>>>> Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and
>>>>> rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your
>>>>> feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but
>>>>> sent messages will only be in the Sent Items folder for the client
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced -
>>>>> Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy
>>>>> your allotted space you get from your server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> In your newsreader:
>>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>
>>>>> On the Web:
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
>>>>> program. To revert back to OE:
>>>>>
>>>>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults
>>>>> | Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> For links in e-mail:
>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> PA Bear,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows
>>>>>> Mail,
>>>>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>>>>>> transfer
>>>>>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to
>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program
>>>>>> that has
>>>>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
>>>>>> into)
>>>>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in
>>>>>> Outlook
>>>>>> Express?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>


 
T

Twayne

"Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to
> transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains an email
> program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can
> you tell me how?
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you
>> have Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and
>> Vista. If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your
>> messages and
>> rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your
>> feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but
>> sent messages will only be in the Sent Items folder for the client
>> used. In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties |
>> Advanced -
>> Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>
>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to
>> satisfy your allotted space you get from your server.
>>
>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>
>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>
>> In your newsreader:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>
>> On the Web:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>
>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
>> program. To revert back to OE:
>>
>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and
>> Defaults | Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook
>> Express. Make OE the default e-mail client:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>
>> For links in e-mail:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>> >>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>> PA Bear,
>>>
>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have
>>> Windows Mail,
>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>>> transfer all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook
>>> Express to whatever
>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program
>>> that has
>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>
>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
>>> into)
>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in
>>> Outlook Express?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)


The finite answer is YES, you can. HOW you do that depends since there
are different ways todo it including as a last resort, e-mailing to
yourelf if you have to or to picke up a few stragglers. Problem with
that is you lose the "from" information and it can be tedious but it'll
work.

Some ways to get some of it (which isn't the preferred outcome) are:

Just Re-download it into WLM. The "read" flag is a function of the
computer, so WM will redownload anything that is still on the serve/sr.
So this depends on whether that covers enouigh of the mails you need.

If you have a webmail account, a lot of what you need might be right
there waiting for you to put it over into your Inbox so it'll resend it
to you.

Depending on what you use to do backups with, it might be an easy task
to search for the .dbx's and combine them into one larger file. WAB will
be there too as will Favorites for IEx.

It looks like the better ways to do it might be covered or in process of
being covered in other posts so I'll let those be your lead rather than
duplicating effort. Pick the ones that sound like they've done it; a
lot of people here like to just guess lately.
HTH,

Twayne`

 
T

Twayne

"Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uAwc5rWLKHA.5956@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
> You stated that I'd have to locate the "folder containing the dbx
> files on the Windows 7 machine". Why would there be dbx files on
> Windows 7? I thought that Outlook Express was officially gone from
> the new Windows. Or are there other programs besides OE that use dbx
> files?


Correct, OE is no longer provided with win7 or IE7 or IE8. It is being
allowed to die a graceful death.

I don't know the answer to your main question but I suspect he may have
misspoken.
OR, he meant where you copied the .dbx files from the old machine to the
new one.

HTH,

Twayne`


>
>
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23taReRSLKHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The folder containing your dbx files **is** the store folder.
>> Both links below show you how to find it.
>>
>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm
>>
>> http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/qt/et101202.htm
>>
>>
>> >> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:OSpxBDQLKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I know what you're saying, but where is "the entire OE store
>>> folder"? The files that I back up are indeed dbx. files that are
>>> found in Documents and Settings/my name/local
>>> settings/identities/microsoft/outlook express under the identity I
>>> need until I see the dbx. files I want. But I'm not sure just
>>> exactly what and where the entire OE store folder is. Can you
>>> point me to it? Thanks.
>>>
>>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:urcufYPLKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx
>>>> files on the Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into
>>>> Windows Live Mail(WLM) and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
>>>> I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external
>>>> drive, then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to
>>>> that saved folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will
>>>> reside in WLM's Storage Folders\Imported folders.
>>>>
>>>> Create your email accounts separately and before importing.
>>>>
>>>> Each email account in WLM will have a separate set of
>>>> folders(unlike OE which has a common Inbox).
>>>>
>>>> Once done, create rules accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> WLM supports Pop3, Http(Hotmail accounts), and IMAP. Rules do not
>>>> work on Http accounts.
>>>> >>>> ...winston
>>>> ms-mvp mail
>>>>
>>>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able
>>>>> to transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains
>>>>> an email program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If
>>>>> I can, can you tell me how?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if
>>>>>> you have Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with
>>>>>> XP and Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your
>>>>>> messages and rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you
>>>>>> want to get your feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent
>>>>>> to both clients, but sent messages will only be in the Sent
>>>>>> Items folder for the client used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties |
>>>>>> Advanced - Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to
>>>>>> satisfy your allotted space you get from your server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In your newsreader:
>>>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the Web:
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default
>>>>>> e-mail program. To revert back to OE:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and
>>>>>> Defaults
>>>>>>> Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook
>>>>>>> Express.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For links in e-mail:
>>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> PA Bear,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have
>>>>>>> Windows Mail,
>>>>>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>>>>>>> transfer
>>>>>>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express
>>>>>>> to whatever
>>>>>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a
>>>>>>> program that has
>>>>>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to
>>>>>>> transfer into)
>>>>>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in
>>>>>>> Outlook
>>>>>>> Express?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)


 
R

Ron Sommer

This thread was using top posting.
I assume that you were no expecting a reply.
Ron Sommer

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:edCJA3XLKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to
>> transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains an email
>> program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can
>> you tell me how?
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you
>>> have Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and
>>> Vista. If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages
>>> and
>>> rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get your
>>> feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but
>>> sent messages will only be in the Sent Items folder for the client
>>> used. In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties |
>>> Advanced -
>>> Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>>
>>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to
>>> satisfy your allotted space you get from your server.
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>
>>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>>
>>> In your newsreader:
>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>
>>> On the Web:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>
>>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
>>> program. To revert back to OE:
>>>
>>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and
>>> Defaults | Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook
>>> Express. Make OE the default e-mail client:
>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>>
>>> For links in e-mail:
>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>> >>>
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>>> PA Bear,
>>>>
>>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have
>>>> Windows Mail,
>>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>>
>>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>>>> transfer all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook
>>>> Express to whatever
>>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program
>>>> that has
>>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>>
>>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer
>>>> into)
>>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in
>>>> Outlook Express?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)

>
> The finite answer is YES, you can. HOW you do that depends since there
> are different ways todo it including as a last resort, e-mailing to
> yourelf if you have to or to picke up a few stragglers. Problem with that
> is you lose the "from" information and it can be tedious but it'll work.
>
> Some ways to get some of it (which isn't the preferred outcome) are:
>
> Just Re-download it into WLM. The "read" flag is a function of the
> computer, so WM will redownload anything that is still on the serve/sr. So
> this depends on whether that covers enouigh of the mails you need.
>
> If you have a webmail account, a lot of what you need might be right
> there waiting for you to put it over into your Inbox so it'll resend it to
> you.
>
> Depending on what you use to do backups with, it might be an easy task to
> search for the .dbx's and combine them into one larger file. WAB will be
> there too as will Favorites for IEx.
>
> It looks like the better ways to do it might be covered or in process of
> being covered in other posts so I'll let those be your lead rather than
> duplicating effort. Pick the ones that sound like they've done it; a lot
> of people here like to just guess lately.
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
>

 
W

...winston

Fred,

'Access to' does not mean presence on the same machine. Note the suggestion to copy the OE store folder to a jump drive or external
drive. Connect that to the Windows 7 machine and you will then have 'Access' to that folder and its contents.

<qp>
You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on the Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into
Windows Live Mail(WLM) and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.

I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive, then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to
that saved folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in WLM's Storage Folders\Imported folders.

...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uAwc5rWLKHA.5956@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You stated that I'd have to locate the "folder containing the dbx files on the Windows 7 machine". Why would there be dbx files
> on Windows 7? I thought that Outlook Express was officially gone from the new Windows. Or are there other programs besides OE
> that use dbx files?
>
>
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23taReRSLKHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> The folder containing your dbx files **is** the store folder.
>> Both links below show you how to find it.
>>
>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm
>>
>> http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/qt/et101202.htm
>>
>>
>> >> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OSpxBDQLKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I know what you're saying, but where is "the entire OE store folder"? The files that I back up are indeed dbx. files that are
>>> found in Documents and Settings/my name/local settings/identities/microsoft/outlook express under the identity I need until I
>>> see the dbx. files I want. But I'm not sure just exactly what and where the entire OE store folder is. Can you point me to
>>> it? Thanks.
>>>
>>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message news:urcufYPLKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on the Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into
>>>> Windows Live Mail(WLM) and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
>>>> I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive, then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse
>>>> to that saved folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in WLM's Storage Folders\Imported folders.
>>>>
>>>> Create your email accounts separately and before importing.
>>>>
>>>> Each email account in WLM will have a separate set of folders(unlike OE which has a common Inbox).
>>>>
>>>> Once done, create rules accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> WLM supports Pop3, Http(Hotmail accounts), and IMAP. Rules do not work on Http accounts.
>>>> >>>> ...winston
>>>> ms-mvp mail
>>>>
>>>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that
>>>>> contains an email program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can you tell me how?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you have Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now
>>>>>> with XP and Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages and rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you
>>>>>> want to get your feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients, but sent messages will only be in the Sent
>>>>>> Items folder for the client used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced - Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to satisfy your allotted space you get from your server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In your newsreader:
>>>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the Web:
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail program. To revert back to OE:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults | Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for
>>>>>> Outlook Express.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For links in e-mail:
>>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> PA Bear,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have Windows Mail,
>>>>>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to transfer
>>>>>>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to whatever
>>>>>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program that has
>>>>>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to transfer into)
>>>>>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in Outlook
>>>>>>> Express?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>

>

 
F

Fred

I get that part. But once I get those files to the Win7 machine, what can I
do with them? My understanding is that dbx files are a "no compute" for
Win7. By the way, look for my post below. I found out something
interesting today.

"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23IbOWzYLKHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Fred,
>
> 'Access to' does not mean presence on the same machine. Note the
> suggestion to copy the OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive.
> Connect that to the Windows 7 machine and you will then have 'Access' to
> that folder and its contents.
>
> <qp>
> You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on the
> Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into Windows Live Mail(WLM)
> and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
>
> I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external drive,
> then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to that saved
> folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in WLM's Storage
> Folders\Imported folders.
>
>
> > ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uAwc5rWLKHA.5956@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> You stated that I'd have to locate the "folder containing the dbx files
>> on the Windows 7 machine". Why would there be dbx files on Windows 7? I
>> thought that Outlook Express was officially gone from the new Windows.
>> Or are there other programs besides OE that use dbx files?
>>
>>
>>
>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23taReRSLKHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> The folder containing your dbx files **is** the store folder.
>>> Both links below show you how to find it.
>>>
>>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm
>>>
>>> http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/qt/et101202.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> ...winston
>>> ms-mvp mail
>>>
>>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OSpxBDQLKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> I know what you're saying, but where is "the entire OE store folder"?
>>>> The files that I back up are indeed dbx. files that are found in
>>>> Documents and Settings/my name/local
>>>> settings/identities/microsoft/outlook express under the identity I need
>>>> until I see the dbx. files I want. But I'm not sure just exactly what
>>>> and where the entire OE store folder is. Can you point me to it?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:urcufYPLKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You will need to have access to the folder containing the dbx files on
>>>>> the Windows 7 machines if you wish to import those into Windows Live
>>>>> Mail(WLM) and only after installing WLM on Windows 7.
>>>>> I.e. copy the entire OE store folder to a jump drive or external
>>>>> drive, then use WLM File/Import/Messages function and browse to that
>>>>> saved folder(not the dbx files). Imported messages will reside in
>>>>> WLM's Storage Folders\Imported folders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Create your email accounts separately and before importing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Each email account in WLM will have a separate set of folders(unlike
>>>>> OE which has a common Inbox).
>>>>>
>>>>> Once done, create rules accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> WLM supports Pop3, Http(Hotmail accounts), and IMAP. Rules do not work
>>>>> on Http accounts.
>>>>> >>>>> ...winston
>>>>> ms-mvp mail
>>>>>
>>>>> "Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e8WqefNLKHA.5436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> This is all making my head hurt. Will I, or will I not, be able to
>>>>>> transfer my OE dbx files to any other computer that contains an email
>>>>>> program from Microsoft that no longer recognizes OE? If I can, can
>>>>>> you tell me how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eMwEpXMLKHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> The only e-mail clients MS will offer for Win 7 is Outlook, if you
>>>>>>> have Office, and Windows Live Mail that works right now with XP and
>>>>>>> Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you install WLMail, it will automatically import your messages
>>>>>>> and rules. You /can/ run it side by side with OE if you want to get
>>>>>>> your feet wet. You can have incoming messages sent to both clients,
>>>>>>> but sent messages will only be in the Sent Items folder for the
>>>>>>> client used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In both programs: Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced -
>>>>>>> Check: Leave a copy of messages on the server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In one program only, check to Delete messages after X days to
>>>>>>> satisfy your allotted space you get from your server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
>>>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Visit the newsgroup to see what's going on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your newsreader:
>>>>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the Web:
>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
>>>>>>> program. To revert back to OE:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and
>>>>>>> Defaults | Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook
>>>>>>> Express.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>>>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For links in e-mail:
>>>>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>>>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>>>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sportsluvr" <Sportsluvr> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:C9B70C3D-F4C0-40DF-A59C-0B05DAC7CCE3@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> PA Bear,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I heard that the new Windows 7 operating system will not have
>>>>>>>> Windows Mail,
>>>>>>>> which was the successor to Outlook Express.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) If I have XP Pro PC's with Outlook Express, will I be able to
>>>>>>>> transfer
>>>>>>>> all the DBX folders and emails contained in my Outlook Express to
>>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>>> the replacement POP3 email program made by Microsoft is (a program
>>>>>>>> that has
>>>>>>>> offline access like Outlook Express)??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) Will Microsoft's new email program also accept (allow to
>>>>>>>> transfer into)
>>>>>>>> the message rules and email acct configs you have presently in
>>>>>>>> Outlook
>>>>>>>> Express?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks very much for your help! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>

>>


 
N

N. Miller

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 18:04:35 -0400, Fred wrote:

> I get that part. But once I get those files to the Win7 machine, what can I
> do with them? My understanding is that dbx files are a "no compute" for
> Win7. By the way, look for my post below. I found out something
> interesting today.


I have no way to test this, right now. TTBMK, if you copy the .dbx files to
a folder in the Windows 7 file system, you can point the Windows Live Mail
Import function to that folder, and import the email. Windows Live Mail
Import allows you to "Browse" to the folder where the .dbx files are
located. The steps, in WLMail are:

File | Import | Messages...

From there you get the option to choose:

Microsoft Outlook Express 6
Windows Live Mail
Windows Mail

Choose, "Microsoft Outlook Express 6", and click the "Next>" button, and you
get a box with a location (likely be empty on Windows 7), and a "Browse..."
button.

Click on the "Browse..." button, and you get a "Browse For Folder" dialog
box pointing into the OS file system. From there you would just browse to
the location of the .dbx files you copied over. Be advised that you should
probably check the file attributes of the .dbx files. If they are marked,
"Read Only", the import will probably fail (even though it logically should
not).

Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
W

...winston

What can you do with them..
Import them into Windows Live Mail.

Install WLM on Win7, then use WLM import function to browse to and import your messages into WLM. Once complete the dbx files are
no longer needed..

...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Fred" <noone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:u1MryuaLKHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I get that part. But once I get those files to the Win7 machine, what can I do with them? My understanding is that dbx files
> are a "no compute" for Win7. By the way, look for my post below. I found out something interesting today.


 
W

...winston

Bingo!

...winston
ms-mvp mail

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message > I have no way to test this, right now. TTBMK, if you copy the .dbx
files to
> a folder in the Windows 7 file system, you can point the Windows Live Mail
> Import function to that folder, and import the email. Windows Live Mail
> Import allows you to "Browse" to the folder where the .dbx files are
> located. The steps, in WLMail are:


 
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