Confused about starting Outlook

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Terry Pinnell

Can one of the experts straighten me out on a couple of points please.

I have Outlook 2002, which I use for task and appointment reminders,

and with ActiveSync (from Windows Mobile) for synchronising my XP Pro

PC with my Pocket PC.

I may have inadvertently changed Outlook's shortcut and it may not now

be staying open to handle the synchronising. But it's one of those

obscure types that don't show the full shortcut in its Properties

window, just a greyed out 'Microsoft Outlook 2002'.

From previous recollections it was

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OUTLOOK.EXE (that part I'm

sure about) plus a 'switch', something like '- embedded' or

'-embedding' or some such combination, with/without the '-' and the

extra space...

Also, I'm puzzled why my handy Autoruns program doesn't show any hits

for 'outlook', whether it's running or not.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 
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Roady [MVP]

I'm not sure what your issue actually is now.

The "grayed out" shortcut is the original one from the installation which

you don't have to modify.

If you want to create a shortcut yourself, you are looking for the /recycle

switch.

What exactly are your synchronization issues?

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"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message

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> Can one of the experts straighten me out on a couple of points please.

> I have Outlook 2002, which I use for task and appointment reminders,
> and with ActiveSync (from Windows Mobile) for synchronising my XP Pro
> PC with my Pocket PC.

> I may have inadvertently changed Outlook's shortcut and it may not now
> be staying open to handle the synchronising. But it's one of those
> obscure types that don't show the full shortcut in its Properties
> window, just a greyed out 'Microsoft Outlook 2002'.

> From previous recollections it was
> C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OUTLOOK.EXE (that part I'm
> sure about) plus a 'switch', something like '- embedded' or
> '-embedding' or some such combination, with/without the '-' and the
> extra space...

> Also, I'm puzzled why my handy Autoruns program doesn't show any hits
> for 'outlook', whether it's running or not.

> > Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 
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Terry Pinnell

"Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net
wrote:


> I'm not sure what your issue actually is now.

> The "grayed out" shortcut is the original one from the installation which
> you don't have to modify.
> If you want to create a shortcut yourself, you are looking for the /recycle
> switch.

> What exactly are your synchronization issues?


Thanks Robert, appreciate your coming back on this.

Sorry if I wasn't entirely clear - that's probably because I'm muddled

on several aspects! These may be connected or not, so I'll step

through them methodically:

1. First, I think I have my synchronisation back. Following much

googling, I followed this tip. In ActiveSync > Tools > Options, for

Tasks, Contacts, Calendar in turn, I UNCHECKED each, synced, CHECKED

them again, and resynced. So that may or may not have been connected

with my experimenting worth Outlook.

2. By using a program called Process Lassoo I was able to read the

full entry for Outlook.exe under the column 'Command line'. It was:

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OUTLOOK.EXE" -Embedding

(Is there no easier way to find out what these 'hidden' shortcuts

actually are?) What is this (and your suggested recycling switch)

supposed to do?

3. Sometimes (and I can't yet see the cause), OUTLOOK.EXE remains

running, even after I've closed it. It appears in XP Task Mgr.

4. Sometimes it will still start OK, even though it is already

'running' in the background. IOW, I can click the usual icon and my

Outlook Today window appears as usual. But sometimes it DOESN'T load!

5. The reason I wanted the shortcut mentioned in #2 above was because

I thought I'd write a little macro (with a program called Macro

Express Pro) that would open Outlook and open the New Task dialog.

That would be a little faster than my current method of clicking

Outlook 2002 in my QuickLaunch List and then choosing New then Task.

6. But a few minutes ago I installed a tool called Knockout

http://sunflowerhead.com/software/knockout/

which appears as if it will do that and more, including showing me

whether Outlook is/is not running. (It appears this problem is fairly

common?)

Any comments/insights would be appreciated please.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
#2 - that is not a user switch. It's only used by the program internals.

#3 - known problem with addins and sync. Remove the pda (to end the sync)

before closing outlook and it might close ok.

http://www.slipstick.com/problems/outlook-exe-continues-running-after-you-exit-outlook/ has a list of other programs

that can cause it.

#4 - caused by outlook not closing properly

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message

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> "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net
> wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure what your issue actually is now.
>

>>The "grayed out" shortcut is the original one from the installation which
> >you don't have to modify.
> >If you want to create a shortcut yourself, you are looking for the
> >/recycle
> >switch.
>

>>What exactly are your synchronization issues?


> Thanks Robert, appreciate your coming back on this.

> Sorry if I wasn't entirely clear - that's probably because I'm muddled
> on several aspects! These may be connected or not, so I'll step
> through them methodically:

> 1. First, I think I have my synchronisation back. Following much
> googling, I followed this tip. In ActiveSync > Tools > Options, for
> Tasks, Contacts, Calendar in turn, I UNCHECKED each, synced, CHECKED
> them again, and resynced. So that may or may not have been connected
> with my experimenting worth Outlook.

> 2. By using a program called Process Lassoo I was able to read the
> full entry for Outlook.exe under the column 'Command line'. It was:
> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OUTLOOK.EXE" -Embedding
> (Is there no easier way to find out what these 'hidden' shortcuts
> actually are?) What is this (and your suggested recycling switch)
> supposed to do?

> 3. Sometimes (and I can't yet see the cause), OUTLOOK.EXE remains
> running, even after I've closed it. It appears in XP Task Mgr.

> 4. Sometimes it will still start OK, even though it is already
> 'running' in the background. IOW, I can click the usual icon and my
> Outlook Today window appears as usual. But sometimes it DOESN'T load!

> 5. The reason I wanted the shortcut mentioned in #2 above was because
> I thought I'd write a little macro (with a program called Macro
> Express Pro) that would open Outlook and open the New Task dialog.
> That would be a little faster than my current method of clicking
> Outlook 2002 in my QuickLaunch List and then choosing New then Task.

> 6. But a few minutes ago I installed a tool called Knockout
> http://sunflowerhead.com/software/knockout/
> which appears as if it will do that and more, including showing me
> whether Outlook is/is not running. (It appears this problem is fairly
> common?)

> Any comments/insights would be appreciated please.

> > Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 
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Terry Pinnell

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp@msn.com> wrote:


> #2 - that is not a user switch. It's only used by the program internals.
> #3 - known problem with addins and sync. Remove the pda (to end the sync)
> before closing outlook and it might close ok.
> http://www.slipstick.com/problems/outlook-exe-continues-running-after-you-exit-outlook/ has a list of other programs
> that can cause it.
> #4 - caused by outlook not closing properly


Thanks Diane.

#2 - Outlook seems to start OK whether I use the original shortcut

(which I assume has that 'embedded' switch as a parameter) or my own

home grown shortcut "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

Office\Office10\OUTLOOK.EXE". What is the distinction please?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
They both call the same program, so they should work the same :)

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message

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> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >#2 - that is not a user switch. It's only used by the program internals.
> >#3 - known problem with addins and sync. Remove the pda (to end the sync)
> >before closing outlook and it might close ok.
> >http://www.slipstick.com/problems/outlook-exe-continues-running-after-you-exit-outlook/ has a list of other programs
> >that can cause it.
> >#4 - caused by outlook not closing properly


> Thanks Diane.

> #2 - Outlook seems to start OK whether I use the original shortcut
> (which I assume has that 'embedded' switch as a parameter) or my own
> home grown shortcut "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office10\OUTLOOK.EXE". What is the distinction please?

> > Terry, East Grinstead, UK
 
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