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Brij Mohan

Hi,

I am using Outlook 2007 at client end and the server is Microsoft Exchange

2007. Outlook receives the incoming mails as Unread but it suddenly changes

it to Read in a few minutes without opening those emails. This problem is

going on with only one user profile so I am sure that it would not be a

problem at mail server.

Please advise.

Thanks,

Brij Mohan
 
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Kathleen Orland

Is the user using the preview pane? Is the mail set to be marked as read

after X seconds? That would be the problem.

"Brij Mohan" <smart.brij@live.com> wrote in message

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> Hi,

> I am using Outlook 2007 at client end and the server is Microsoft Exchange
> 2007. Outlook receives the incoming mails as Unread but it suddenly


changes
> it to Read in a few minutes without opening those emails. This problem is
> going on with only one user profile so I am sure that it would not be a
> problem at mail server.

> Please advise.

> Thanks,
> Brij Mohan
>
 
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Brij Mohan

The user is using the preview pane but since he has not opened the mail,

that should not be unread till that time. So, I would like to know how an

Email is set to be marked as read after X seconds in Outlook.

Thanks for your answering.

Sincerely,

Brij Mohan

"" <korland@nospamrogers.com> wrote in message

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> Is the user using the preview pane? Is the mail set to be marked as read
> after X seconds? That would be the problem.

> "Brij Mohan" <smart.brij@live.com> wrote in message
> news:AA984A28-BEBF-4FDD-A165-9261AE24373E@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
>

>> I am using Outlook 2007 at client end and the server is Microsoft
> > Exchange
> > 2007. Outlook receives the incoming mails as Unread but it suddenly

> changes
> > it to Read in a few minutes without opening those emails. This problem is
> > going on with only one user profile so I am sure that it would not be a
> > problem at mail server.
>

>> Please advise.
>

>> Thanks,
> > Brij Mohan
> >


>
 
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VanguardLH

Brij Mohan wrote:


> wrote ...
>
> > Brij Mohan wrote ...
> >
> >> I am using Outlook 2007 at client end and the server is Microsoft
> >> Exchange 2007. Outlook receives the incoming mails as Unread but it
> >> suddenly changes it to Read in a few minutes without opening those
> >> emails. This problem is going on with only one user profile so I am
> >> sure that it would not be a problem at mail server.

>

>> Is the user using the preview pane? Is the mail set to be marked as read
> > after X seconds? That would be the problem.


> The user is using the preview pane but since he has not opened the mail,
> that should not be unread till that time. So, I would like to know how an
> Email is set to be marked as read after X seconds in Outlook.


What's the difference between double-clicking an e-mail to view in its own

window (to open it) versus using the Preview pane (to open it)? The only

way to NOT open an e-mail by only selecting it in the message list is to NOT

use the Preview pane. I believe AutoPreview (that shows the first few lines

of each e-mail as text only after the header row in the message list) does

not result in marking the e-mail as read when you select it (after the

number of configured seconds of leaving focus on that item while shown in

the Preview pane).

So the user could turn *off* the Preview pane to make sure that an e-mail

does not get marked as read after some number of configured seconds. The

user will then have to double-click an e-mail to open it within its own

window. AutoPreview can be used as a partial and safer substitute to the

Preview pane.

I believe the default for the "Mark items as read when viewed in the Reading

Pane" is 1 second, so it doesn't take long when clicking around on unread

messages to mark them as read.

If the problem is with use of the Preview pane, has the user tested what

happens when Outlook is loaded in its safe mode ("outlook.exe /safe") which

does not load any enabled add-ons that were installed to Outlook? Could be

an add-on is interrogating the e-mail and changing its status. Does the

user have any macros defined for Outlook?
 
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Brij Mohan

Hello guys,

I just figured out that email issue with my user where emails mysteriously

open is being caused by pop3 connection to his Blackberry device. When

device downloads emails they open the email on the exchange server. Tested

this multiple times all with same results. Can you find out if there is a

setting which will override this? Thx, Brij.

"Brian Tillman " <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> "Brij Mohan" <smart.brij@live.com> wrote in message
> news:85872BF0-C2B8-412E-BA50-666C0ECA3A4E@microsoft.com...
>
> > The user is using the preview pane but since he has not opened the mail,
> > that should not be unread till that time. So, I would like to know how an
> > Email is set to be marked as read after X seconds in Outlook.


> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HP052426951033.aspx
> >
 
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VanguardLH

Brij Mohan wrote:


> I just figured out that email issue with my user where emails
> mysteriously open is being caused by pop3 connection to his Blackberry
> device. When device downloads emails they open the email on the exchange
> server. Tested this multiple times all with same results. Can you find
> out if there is a setting which will override this? Thx, Brij.


Is there an add-on installed into Outlook for the Blackberry? Or do the

Blackberry merely makes its own separate POP connection to the mail server?

For multiple e-mail clients to share the same mailbox, each must have the

option "leave message on server" enabled. The default behavior of POP is to

issue a RETR (retrieve) to get the message followed by a DELE (delete) to

cleanup the mailbox. "Leave message on server" eliminates the DELE command

so the message remains in the mailbox.

Whether an item is old or new is not tracked in a POP account. The new/old

status of a message is tracked in the e-mail client. So an e-mail client

that retrieves all "new" e-mails is retrieving e-mails that are not

currently in its UID (unique identifier) list (i.e., "new" is an e-mail

found on the server that hasn't yet been retrieved by that particular e-mail

client). A different e-mail client will still those messages as new that

were retrieved by some other e-mail client. E-mail clients don't magically

share their UID lists. What's new to an e-mail client is based solely on

what items are NOT in its own list of previously retrieved items. By

leaving messages on the server (no DELE command after the RETR), multiple

POP e-mail clients can retrieve the same messages whether or not they have

been also retrieved by other e-mail clients.

If you enable the "leave messages on server", well, they're left on the

server in your mailbox. Since you have a quota for how large your mailbox

can grow, you will need to periodically use the webmail interface to your

account to delete the old garbage out of your mailbox (which shows as the

Inbox folder in the webmail interface) to prevent consuming all the disk

quota for your account. If you don't do the manual cleanup, eventually your

mailbox fills up and further incoming e-mails will get rejected as there is

no longer any space to store them. Some e-mail clients, like Outlook, have

an option to "delete after N days from when retrieved". This helps to

cleanup your mailbox so its disk quota doesn't get all eaten up. Specify an

interval that is more than long enough to account for multiple e-mail

clients accessing the same mailbox, like 15 or 30 days. With "leave

messages on server", multiple e-mail clients polling the same mailbox can

retrieve the same e-mails (because the other e-mail clients didn't delete

those messages after retrieving them). With "delete N days after retrieve",

you have that long for all your e-mail clients to grab a copy of an e-mail

before one of those e-mail clients deletes it from the mailbox.
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
There is no setting that controls this. When pop downloads mail, it will

always make the mail on the server as read.

If this is a serious problem for the user, you either need to move them to

BES or set up a second, BB only mailbox and configure the first mailbox to

copy everything to the second mailbox.

"Brij Mohan" <smart.brij@live.com> wrote in message

news:2874ADC0-C4D4-4B4F-AFEE-7212D0EAA4BD@microsoft.com...
> Hello guys,

> I just figured out that email issue with my user where emails
> mysteriously open is being caused by pop3 connection to his Blackberry
> device. When device downloads emails they open the email on the exchange
> server. Tested this multiple times all with same results. Can you find out
> if there is a setting which will override this? Thx, Brij.

> "Brian Tillman " <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eRBxYoocKHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > "Brij Mohan" <smart.brij@live.com> wrote in message
> > news:85872BF0-C2B8-412E-BA50-666C0ECA3A4E@microsoft.com...
> >
> >> The user is using the preview pane but since he has not opened the mail,
> >> that should not be unread till that time. So, I would like to know how
> >> an Email is set to be marked as read after X seconds in Outlook.

>

>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HP052426951033.aspx
> > > >

>
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
There is no add-in for the BB - it's a straight pop connection. The BB has

its own POP client and it always leave mail on the server. (Which you'd

know if you ever used a BB against a POP acct.)

Depending on the provider, he may be able to connect to the mailbox using

owa. I don't think this marks the message read (although I never tried, as I

use BES. I'll set it up and test it next.)

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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> Brij Mohan wrote:
>
> > I just figured out that email issue with my user where emails
> > mysteriously open is being caused by pop3 connection to his Blackberry
> > device. When device downloads emails they open the email on the exchange
> > server. Tested this multiple times all with same results. Can you find
> > out if there is a setting which will override this? Thx, Brij.


> Is there an add-on installed into Outlook for the Blackberry? Or do the
> Blackberry merely makes its own separate POP connection to the mail
> server?
>


<snipped a ton of pointless dibble that has nothing to do with the problem
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
In a quickie test, when the BB is set to access OWA, the messages are not

marked read just from downloading (they will still be marked read in the

mailbox when read on the BB, because they were *read*).

Instructions are at

http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=KB03133

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp@msn.com> wrote in message

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> There is no setting that controls this. When pop downloads mail, it will
> always make the mail on the server as read.

> If this is a serious problem for the user, you either need to move them to
> BES or set up a second, BB only mailbox and configure the first mailbox to
> copy everything to the second mailbox.

> >

> >

>

> >

> "Brij Mohan" <smart.brij@live.com> wrote in message
> news:2874ADC0-C4D4-4B4F-AFEE-7212D0EAA4BD@microsoft.com...
> > Hello guys,
>

>> I just figured out that email issue with my user where emails
> > mysteriously open is being caused by pop3 connection to his Blackberry
> > device. When device downloads emails they open the email on the exchange
> > server. Tested this multiple times all with same results. Can you find
> > out if there is a setting which will override this? Thx, Brij.
>

>> "Brian Tillman " <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:eRBxYoocKHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> "Brij Mohan" <smart.brij@live.com> wrote in message
> >> news:85872BF0-C2B8-412E-BA50-666C0ECA3A4E@microsoft.com...
> >
>>>> The user is using the preview pane but since he has not opened the
> >>> mail, that should not be unread till that time. So, I would like to
> >>> know how an Email is set to be marked as read after X seconds in
> >>> Outlook.
> >
>>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HP052426951033.aspx
> >> > >>

> >
 
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VanguardLH

Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:


> There is no add-in for the BB - it's a straight pop connection. The BB has
> its own POP client and it always leave mail on the server. (Which you'd
> know if you ever used a BB against a POP acct.)


Which is why I posed those statements as questions.


> Depending on the provider, he may be able to connect to the mailbox using
> owa. I don't think this marks the message read (although I never tried, as I
> use BES. I'll set it up and test it next.)


"When device downloads emails they open the email on the exchange server."

If the Blackberry only uses POP then the company must be using the POP

connector to their Exchange server. I'm not an Exchange or domain admin but

I do know that roaming profiles can be enabled in a domain. So I'm thinking

that using Outlook on one workstation to read e-mails will show that same

state when you move to another workstation. That is, on one workstation you

read an e-mail then you roam to another workstation and that e-mail read on

the first workstation will show as also read on the second workstation.

Yet there is nothing in POP that relays the status of an e-mail. New, old,

unread, and read are statuses tracked within an individual POP e-mail

client. The Blackberry is polling the Exchange server through its POP

connector. The Outlook client is probably going direct to Exchange. Since

the Blackberry somehow "opened" a new e-mail then I suppose that status gets

reflected in the Exchange mailbox which the Outlook client sees. That's

probably why the message gets marked as read some minutes later because

that's when the Blackberry (when left on) happened to poll the same Exchange

mailbox but through the POP connector. Sounds like the user needs to power

off his Blackberry or kill its mail polling when he switches his interface

to his mailbox to be through Outlook.

I'm thinking that this discussion needs to move to a newsgroup that

discusses Exchange. Those folks would know how to administer and configure

the Exchange server along with its POP connector.
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
There is no "pop connector" involved - the BB internet service (BIS) pulls

in the mail using the POP3 service. When any client pops exchange mail, its

marked as read in the mailbox on the server (it works the same way on my

non-exchange account - when I log into web mail, everything I downloaded is

marked read).

This can be avoided by using the OWA URL method instead of POP3. BIS

connects to the OWA URL as as web service and gets the mail without marking

it read. It syncs changes back to the mailbox too.

Other than its limited to mail only, it works pretty good. I was avoiding

moving my main mailbox to Exchange 2010 because BES (blackberry enterprise

server) doesn't support Ex2010 yet but I might reconsider. I can use it to

get multiple exchange mailboxes too.

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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> Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
>
> > There is no add-in for the BB - it's a straight pop connection. The BB
> > has
> > its own POP client and it always leave mail on the server. (Which you'd
> > know if you ever used a BB against a POP acct.)


> Which is why I posed those statements as questions.
>
> > Depending on the provider, he may be able to connect to the mailbox using
> > owa. I don't think this marks the message read (although I never tried,
> > as I
> > use BES. I'll set it up and test it next.)


> "When device downloads emails they open the email on the exchange server."
> If the Blackberry only uses POP then the company must be using the POP
> connector to their Exchange server. I'm not an Exchange or domain admin
> but
> I do know that roaming profiles can be enabled in a domain. So I'm
> thinking
> that using Outlook on one workstation to read e-mails will show that same
> state when you move to another workstation. That is, on one workstation
> you
> read an e-mail then you roam to another workstation and that e-mail read
> on
> the first workstation will show as also read on the second workstation.

> Yet there is nothing in POP that relays the status of an e-mail. New,
> old,
> unread, and read are statuses tracked within an individual POP e-mail
> client. The Blackberry is polling the Exchange server through its POP
> connector. The Outlook client is probably going direct to Exchange.
> Since
> the Blackberry somehow "opened" a new e-mail then I suppose that status
> gets
> reflected in the Exchange mailbox which the Outlook client sees. That's
> probably why the message gets marked as read some minutes later because
> that's when the Blackberry (when left on) happened to poll the same
> Exchange
> mailbox but through the POP connector. Sounds like the user needs to
> power
> off his Blackberry or kill its mail polling when he switches his interface
> to his mailbox to be through Outlook.

> I'm thinking that this discussion needs to move to a newsgroup that
> discusses Exchange. Those folks would know how to administer and
> configure
> the Exchange server along with its POP connector.
 
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VanguardLH

Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:


> There is no "pop connector" involved - the BB internet service (BIS) pulls
> in the mail using the POP3 service. When any client pops exchange mail,


But you cannot POP the Exchange server. POP and Exchange are different

e-mail protocols. Hence the need for the POP connector to the Exchange

server. If BIS is using POP, they are not connecting direct to the Exchange

server. They are connecting to the POP connector that goes to the Exchange

server.

There is no command in the POP protocol for setting, unsetting, or

recognizing the status (read, unread, new, old) in the mailbox. So it isn't

POP that is causing the problem. It is Exchange marking the item as read

when the POP connector retrieved a copy of the item from the Exchange

mailbox.

You show me in the RFCs for Post Office Protocol v3 just where the status of

a message can be set, unset, or reported.

STAT: Status of the maildrop (not of a message).

LIST: Number of messages and their total size in the maildrop.

RETR: Retrieve the specified message.

DELE: Delete the specified message.

NOOP: Does nothing except get a response from the server.

RSET: Unmarks the delete-marked messages.

QUIT: Abort session establish or end mail session.

TOP: Returns headers for a message (optionally return first N lines)

UIDL: Returns unique identifier assigned to a message

USER: Username for login credential

PASS: Password for login credential

APOP: Uses MD5 hash to thwart replay attacks.

Nothing about marking a message as read.

Nothing about unmarking a message as read.

Nothing about marking a message as new.

Nothing about unmarking a message as new.

The POP e-mail *client* normally tracks read/unread/new/old status for

e-mails based on what it has retrieved previously and how the user changed

tags in the message store used by that e-mail client. However, in this

case, the POP server that BIS is connecting to also goes to an Exchange

server. Something outside of POP is changing the server-side status of the

message because POP doesn't have a server-side status for messages.

Apparently when you yank an e-mail from the POP connector to Exchange, the

Exchange server marks the item as read in the mailbox (since it got

retrieved and POP has no way to convey or modify message status). The OWA

interface, as you mention, does not behave the same way.
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
Huh? What do you mean you can't pop exchange? Exchange server supports both

POP and IMAP protocols.

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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> Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
>
> > There is no "pop connector" involved - the BB internet service (BIS)
> > pulls
> > in the mail using the POP3 service. When any client pops exchange mail,


> But you cannot POP the Exchange server. POP and Exchange are different
> e-mail protocols. Hence the need for the POP connector to the Exchange
> server. If BIS is using POP, they are not connecting direct to the
> Exchange
> server. They are connecting to the POP connector that goes to the
> Exchange
> server.
>
 
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VanguardLH

Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:


> Huh? What do you mean you can't pop exchange? Exchange server supports both
> POP and IMAP protocols.


Yes, through a connector where the POP service is the mail server that

communicates to the Exchange server. As with many servers, they run as a

service under Windows. Since POP clients are connecting to it, they can

only issue commands within the POP protocol but none of which can effect the

read/unread/new/old status of a message. The interface between the POP

service (aka POP Connector) and Exchange does not obviate the POP

Connector's interface dictated by RFCs between it and the POP e-mail client.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124934.aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa997475.aspx

The POP Connector of which I speak is the POP service that interfaces on one

side with Exchange and on the other side with POP clients. The long name is

"Microsoft Exchange Server Connector for Post Office Protocol 3".

http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/8/8/188e03df-a3cf-4705-ad6a-3f7eb4e0eaf9/getstart_EN.doc
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
<sigh> And you had the nerve to complain about someone saying a 4 yr old

post fixed their problem. The document you referenced is 10 yrs old and

applies to Exchange 5.5/SBS 4.5 running on NT4. Those suckers are obsolete

and long out of support.

That aside, the document relates to using the pop connector to grab mail

from a pop account at an ISP and drops it into mailboxes in Exchange:

"The POP3 Connector can retrieve e-mail from a single ISP-provided POP3

mailbox or from multiple, per-user POP3 mailboxes. "

ie, Exchange is acting as a mail client, grabbing the mail from a mailbox on

another mail server.

Blackberry uses POP3 to get mail FROM Exchange using the POP3 protocol so it

can deliver it to the handheld device, just as it would if you had a pop

account from an isp running linux. Blackberry acts as the mail client,

Exchange is the server.

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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> Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
>
> > Huh? What do you mean you can't pop exchange? Exchange server supports
> > both
> > POP and IMAP protocols.


> Yes, through a connector where the POP service is the mail server that
> communicates to the Exchange server. As with many servers, they run as a
> service under Windows. Since POP clients are connecting to it, they can
> only issue commands within the POP protocol but none of which can effect
> the
> read/unread/new/old status of a message. The interface between the POP
> service (aka POP Connector) and Exchange does not obviate the POP
> Connector's interface dictated by RFCs between it and the POP e-mail
> client.

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124934.aspx
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa997475.aspx

> The POP Connector of which I speak is the POP service that interfaces on
> one
> side with Exchange and on the other side with POP clients. The long name
> is
> "Microsoft Exchange Server Connector for Post Office Protocol 3".

> http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/8/8/188e03df-a3cf-4705-ad6a-3f7eb4e0eaf9/getstart_EN.doc
 
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VanguardLH

Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:


> The document you referenced is 10 yrs old and
> applies to Exchange 5.5/SBS 4.5 running on NT4. Those suckers are obsolete
> and long out of support.


You're saying the POP interface to Exchange no longer runs as an NT service?

And that docs for Exchange 2007 are 4 years old. From what I read from

Microsoft on Exchange 2007, "you must first start the POP3 and IMAP4

services on the computer that is running Exchange 2007." I started at

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996058.aspx but didn't bother

looking under the Exchange 2010 node but at the 2007 node.

Exchange Server

Exchange 2007

Operations

Managing Client Access

Managing POP3 and IMAP4

Managing Client Access is about *client* access to Exchange via OWA (Outlook

Web Access), Exchange ActiveSync, Entourage, POP3, and IMAP4. Everything

under here talks about running POP and IMAP *services*. These are just

front-end servers to support those particular e-mail protocols for

conversion to access an Exchange mailbox.

As yet, neither you nor I know what version of Exchange is being used.


> using the pop connector to grab mail from a pop account at an ISP and
> drops it into mailboxes in Exchange


As I recall, that is *one* role you can setup for those connectors. If

those connectors/services were only to yank messages from other POP servers,

explain the purpose of the section titled "How to Enable POP3 and IMAP4

Users to Use Default Protocol Settings". There is also a section on how to

set connection limits on *users* of the POP and IMAP services for Exchange.

These services are needed for protocol conversion. POP e-mail clients do

*not* talk Exchange-speak. Microsoft refers to their Client Access Server

because these protocol conversion handlers (POP, IMAP, OWA) probably don't

even have to run as a service on the same host as where Exchange runs.

Since the POP client can do nothing to alter read/unread/new/old status of

messages using the POP protocol, that the messages were seen as opened

(read) by the OP means Exchange was doing that as a consquence of the POP

interface to the Exchange server. So, again, the Exchange newsgroup would

have users more familiar with what settings are available within Exchange to

stop that from happening; however, I suspect that if they changed it for one

user that the behavior changes for all users.

Unless you point to something that says otherwise, and still in Exchange

2007, there is no direct support for POP and IMAP protocols. Those are

handled through conversion using the services (which are the *client access*

servers) for POP and IMAP. OWA is a bit different in that it gets setup on

an IIS server that communicates to Exchange.

You haven't convinced me that you know more about how Exchange is setup to

facilitate its access via POP than how Microsoft defines that access.
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
I'm saying you are mixing apples and oranges, confusing providing a POP3

experience to non-Outlook mail clients with collecting mail from other

servers using the POP3 protocol. The document you referenced is for Exchange

to *get* pop mail from other servers - the POP connector made Exchange a POP

client. The POP Connector collects mail from POP3 accounts and drops it into

the Exchange mailboxes. There are many of these pop connectors available -

a list is at http://www.slipstick.com/exs/popconnect.asp. (I've had a

license for PopBeamer for over 10 years and used it to put mail into

Exchange 5.5 through 2010. Until last week it collected mail from a pop

account and put it in my Exchange mailbox. We moved that last domain using

outside mail hosting on linux to Exchange 2010.)

To use Exchange (any version) as a POP *server* so you could use Outlook

Express, t-bird or Eudora to read mail in your Exchange mailbox, the admin

only needed to enable the POP service and open the port on the firewall. In

older versions, the admin enabled the Windows service (it shipped with

Windows server, was not a separate download).

See http://www.google.com/search?q=Exchange+pop3+and+imap for articles

concerning this. I have VM's of all versions of Exchange and most versions

of SBS here and yes, I know how to configure them to so OE and Eudora could

get into the exchange mailbox or to collect POP mail from other servers and

place it into an Exchange mailbox.

Back to the original question that started this thread- the blackberry user

was connecting to his Exchange mailbox using POP3. Exchange was acting as a

POP3 MAIL SERVER in this case. This has always been possible with all

versions of Exchange, with just the files on the windows install disk. No

extra download from Microsoft was necessary.

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

news:hfaa45$b4b$1@news.albasani.net...
> Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
>
> > The document you referenced is 10 yrs old and
> > applies to Exchange 5.5/SBS 4.5 running on NT4. Those suckers are
> > obsolete
> > and long out of support.


> You're saying the POP interface to Exchange no longer runs as an NT
> service?
> And that docs for Exchange 2007 are 4 years old. From what I read from
> Microsoft on Exchange 2007, "you must first start the POP3 and IMAP4
> services on the computer that is running Exchange 2007." I started at
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996058.aspx but didn't bother
> looking under the Exchange 2010 node but at the 2007 node.
>
 
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