WebDAV finally going away.

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Well, I think the time has come. Some of us have been able to use free
Hotmail accounts in Outlook without the Outlook Connector because older
accounts were still permitted to use the old WebDAV protocol for the
connection. Two days ago, I received a message from the Live people that if I
wanted to continue using Hotmail with Outlook that I'd need to install the
Outlook Connector. I'm not complaining and I have no problem to solve. I
just wanted to provide a heads-up to those others who are also still using
WebDAV. If you haven't seen that message yet, I suspect you will shortly.

 
K

Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]

#2
You can set it up for regular POP3 and not have to use the connector.

Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
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"Brian Tillman " <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I think the time has come. Some of us have been able to use free
> Hotmail accounts in Outlook without the Outlook Connector because older
> accounts were still permitted to use the old WebDAV protocol for the
> connection. Two days ago, I received a message from the Live people that
> if I wanted to continue using Hotmail with Outlook that I'd need to
> install the Outlook Connector. I'm not complaining and I have no problem
> to solve. I just wanted to provide a heads-up to those others who are
> also still using WebDAV. If you haven't seen that message yet, I suspect
> you will shortly.
> >


 
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" - " <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> You can set it up for regular POP3 and not have to use the connector.


Of course.

 
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Steven

#4
Presumably for a fee too .... ?

"Brian Tillman " <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> " - " <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
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>
>> You can set it up for regular POP3 and not have to use the connector.

>
> Of course.
> >


 
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Dave Warren

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In message <ez2$Zvf5JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> "Brian Tillman [MVP -
Outlook]" <tillman1952@yahoo.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>"Steven" <svaardt@googlesmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Presumably for a fee too .... ?

>
>No, it's free again.
>http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!49799.entry


In some countries... Your location (as defined in your account profile)
seems to make a difference here.
 
R

Roady [MVP]

#7
That was only for about a month or so. That limitation is no more and all
Live Hotmail accounts should have free POP3 access now. If not, contact Live
Hotmail Support.

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> In message <ez2$Zvf5JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> "Brian Tillman [MVP -
> Outlook]" <tillman1952@yahoo.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>
>>"Steven" <svaardt@googlesmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:ODCHpJf5JHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Presumably for a fee too .... ?

>>
>>No, it's free again.
>>http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!49799.entry

>
> In some countries... Your location (as defined in your account profile)
> seems to make a difference here.


 
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VanguardLH

#8
Brian Tillman wrote:

> Well, I think the time has come. Some of us have been able to use free
> Hotmail accounts in Outlook without the Outlook Connector because older
> accounts were still permitted to use the old WebDAV protocol for the
> connection. Two days ago, I received a message from the Live people that if I
> wanted to continue using Hotmail with Outlook that I'd need to install the
> Outlook Connector. I'm not complaining and I have no problem to solve. I
> just wanted to provide a heads-up to those others who are also still using
> WebDAV. If you haven't seen that message yet, I suspect you will shortly.


Here's the blog that has most of what the e-mail said:

http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!50889.entry

Last time they threatened DAV access would disappear in June 2008. Now
they're saying it's gone on Sept 1, 2009. Just under 3 months to plan
for the change.
 
S

Steven

#9

Great stuff - if it it's going to be totally free via POP that's very
commendable for Microsoft....
what are the pop/smtp addresses that I should be using for hotmail a/c's ...
or where should I find them ?

"Brian Tillman " <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I think the time has come. Some of us have been able to use free
> Hotmail accounts in Outlook without the Outlook Connector because older
> accounts were still permitted to use the old WebDAV protocol for the
> connection. Two days ago, I received a message from the Live people that
> if I wanted to continue using Hotmail with Outlook that I'd need to
> install the Outlook Connector. I'm not complaining and I have no problem
> to solve. I just wanted to provide a heads-up to those others who are
> also still using WebDAV. If you haven't seen that message yet, I suspect
> you will shortly.
> >


 
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Dave Warren

#10
In message <OCQ5#hi5JHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Roady [MVP]"
<newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net> was claimed to have
wrote:

>That was only for about a month or so. That limitation is no more and all
>Live Hotmail accounts should have free POP3 access now. If not, contact Live
>Hotmail Support.


It was far longer then a month, it was at least three months between
when I set up my first US based user and when I was able to start POPing
my own test account (I'm Canadian)

One of my users reported that as of last week they had a "POP3 service
is still being rolled out for members of your country" message received
from Hotmail support. I don't recall which country, although I could
probably look it up, somewhere in eastern Europe I believe.
 
S

Steven

#11

If you're using several email accounts can't the latest MS Mail program
(Outlook 2007 ?) distinguish between them so that just as with WebDAV emails
go securely to where they belong, and not all get dropped into the same
Inbox folder....

"Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@djwcomputers.com> wrote in message
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> In message <OCQ5#hi5JHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Roady [MVP]"
> <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net> was claimed to have
> wrote:
>
>>That was only for about a month or so. That limitation is no more and all
>>Live Hotmail accounts should have free POP3 access now. If not, contact
>>Live
>>Hotmail Support.

>
> It was far longer then a month, it was at least three months between
> when I set up my first US based user and when I was able to start POPing
> my own test account (I'm Canadian)
>
> One of my users reported that as of last week they had a "POP3 service
> is still being rolled out for members of your country" message received
> from Hotmail support. I don't recall which country, although I could
> probably look it up, somewhere in eastern Europe I believe.


 

Diane Poremsky

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Office 365 Exchange
#12
No, pop3 always uses 1 mailbox. you can use rules or, with outlook 2007,
set a different inbox (on acct settings).

"Steven" <svaardt@googlesmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> If you're using several email accounts can't the latest MS Mail program
> (Outlook 2007 ?) distinguish between them so that just as with WebDAV
> emails go securely to where they belong, and not all get dropped into the
> same Inbox folder....
>
>
> "Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@djwcomputers.com> wrote in message
> news:0ifp25ph0da43240dfoqgvdi78s1msfcr7@4ax.com...
>> In message <OCQ5#hi5JHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Roady [MVP]"
>> <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net> was claimed to have
>> wrote:
>>
>>>That was only for about a month or so. That limitation is no more and all
>>>Live Hotmail accounts should have free POP3 access now. If not, contact
>>>Live
>>>Hotmail Support.

>>
>> It was far longer then a month, it was at least three months between
>> when I set up my first US based user and when I was able to start POPing
>> my own test account (I'm Canadian)
>>
>> One of my users reported that as of last week they had a "POP3 service
>> is still being rolled out for members of your country" message received
>> from Hotmail support. I don't recall which country, although I could
>> probably look it up, somewhere in eastern Europe I believe.

>
>

 
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Brian Tillman

#13
"Steven" <svaardt@googlesmail.com> wrote in message
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> Great stuff - if it it's going to be totally free via POP that's very
> commendable for Microsoft....
> what are the pop/smtp addresses that I should be using for hotmail a/c's
> ... or where should I find them ?


Apparently you haven't read the entire thread because I posted a link to
description. Here is it again:
http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!49799.entry
Brian Tillman

 
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Dave Warren

#14
In message <#yS1v1E6JHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Steven"
<svaardt@googlesmail.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>Great stuff - if it it's going to be totally free via POP that's very
>commendable for Microsoft....


Microsoft is just trying to keep up with Gmail, nothing particularly
commendable about that.

A day late and a dollar short, but at least they're trying.
 
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Dave Warren

#15
(I guess I could have answered the question too, sorry... )

In message <#yS1v1E6JHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Steven"
<svaardt@googlesmail.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>what are the pop/smtp addresses that I should be using for hotmail a/c's ...
>or where should I find them ?


POP server: pop3.live.com (Port 995)
POP SSL required? Yes
User name: Your Windows Live ID, for example yourname@hotmail.com
Password: The password you usually use to sign in to Hotmail or Windows
Live
SMTP server: smtp.live.com (Port 25)
Authentication required? Yes (this matches your POP username and
password)
TLS/SSL required? Yes
 
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#16
And who knows how long it will last... :)

"Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@djwcomputers.com> wrote in message
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> In message <#yS1v1E6JHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Steven"
> <svaardt@googlesmail.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>
>>Great stuff - if it it's going to be totally free via POP that's very
>>commendable for Microsoft....

>
> Microsoft is just trying to keep up with Gmail, nothing particularly
> commendable about that.
>
> A day late and a dollar short, but at least they're trying.


 
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