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Hi all,

In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and Addresses

shown up;

But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new contact,

you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and

Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????

See what I mean and check

http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=602

in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before

Business..)

If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field chooser

and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?

Is this supposed to be?

(Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)
 
I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you

modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly

different from the unmodified standard form; see

http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21

Sue Mosher

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:98628E00-734F-4F7A-A3EF-A45A7641CA55@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,

> In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
> Addresses
> shown up;
> But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
> contact,
> you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
> Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????

> See what I mean and check
> http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=602
> in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
> Business..)

> If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field chooser
> and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?

> Is this supposed to be?
> (Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)
>
 
Sorry that I still did not state my questions clearly.

If you create the new default contact from your outlook, you will see the

all phones field (such as business, home...) group together with Phone

Numbers header. (I tried to use that link to show what I mean and nothing is

related to my issue.)

But, If I customized the contact's the first page, I do not see the Phone

Numbers header show up. Is this supposed to be?

Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the

Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your outlook,

you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...) group together

with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make Phone Numbers header to

appear in the contact even if I do not see it in the design mode?

Thank you.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you
> modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly
> different from the unmodified standard form; see
> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21

> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:98628E00-734F-4F7A-A3EF-A45A7641CA55@microsoft.com...
> > Hi all,
> > In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
> > Addresses
> > shown up;
> > But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
> > contact,
> > you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
> > Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????
> > See what I mean and check
> > http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=602
> > in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
> > Business..)
> > If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field chooser
> > and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?
> > Is this supposed to be?
> > (Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)
> >


> .
>
 
Repeating: If you modify the first page of the contact form, the design will

be significantly different from the unmodified standard form. This is the

way the contact form works.

Sue Mosher

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:834AC643-7B48-4234-86BC-2E055C41332E@microsoft.com...
> Sorry that I still did not state my questions clearly.

> If you create the new default contact from your outlook, you will see the
> all phones field (such as business, home...) group together with Phone
> Numbers header. (I tried to use that link to show what I mean and nothing
> is
> related to my issue.)

> But, If I customized the contact's the first page, I do not see the Phone
> Numbers header show up. Is this supposed to be?

> Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
> Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your
> outlook,
> you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...) group
> together
> with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make Phone Numbers header
> to
> appear in the contact even if I do not see it in the design mode?

> Thank you.

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you
> > modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be
> > significantly
> > different from the unmodified standard form; see
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21
>

>> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > news:98628E00-734F-4F7A-A3EF-A45A7641CA55@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi all,
> >> > In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
> > > Addresses
> > > shown up;
> > > But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
> > > contact,
> > > you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
> > > Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????
> >> > See what I mean and check
> > > http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=602
> > > in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
> > > Business..)
> >> > If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field
> > > chooser
> > > and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?
> >> > Is this supposed to be?
> > > (Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)
> > >

>

>
>> .
> >
 
In article <98628E00-734F-4F7A-A3EF-A45A7641CA55@microsoft.com>,

=?Utf-8?B?ZWQ=?= wrote:
> See what I mean and check
> http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=602
> in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
> Business..)
>


What you are seeing in that image opposite the blue legend of phone

numbers is the drop-down list box of the choices for the "File as:"

field. It truly has nothing to do with phone numbers or possible choices

for them and will not appear in the design mode unless you expand the

properties of the "File as:" field.

What Sue is trying to tell you, when she says "but if you modify the

first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly

different from the unmodified standard form", is that, if you make any

custom changes to the first page of the contact form, you are likely to

break the automatic formatting of some of fields. The first to break is

phone field formatting. Less likely is web urls, and time formatting can

also go. My standard advice for custom form design is to put all your

customization on an empty back page of the form and then hide the

standard pages if you want your page to be the first thing the user sees.

But, you mis-interpreted that image from the page you quoted, and need to

re-think what you are trying to create.

Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the

Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your

outlook, you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...)

group together with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make

Phone Numbers header to appear in the contact even if I do not see it in

the design mode?"

What you need to realize is that there is private code and private

variables what run to make the Outlook Contact Inspector appear as it

does. You cannot change those features. The Phone Numbers header is one

of those run-time features that you can not control or bring into the

design mode workbench. Microsoft lets you change many features in an

outlook form, but not the basic structure that ensures that Outlook will

always be able to bring it up in the familiar format.

Hollis Paul

Mukilteo, WA USA
 
Sorry and Apologize! I guess that there was a problem with the Discussion

Group, I could not see my posts and that's why I posted several times.

THANK YOU!

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> Repeating: If you modify the first page of the contact form, the design will
> be significantly different from the unmodified standard form. This is the
> way the contact form works.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:834AC643-7B48-4234-86BC-2E055C41332E@microsoft.com...
> > Sorry that I still did not state my questions clearly.
> > If you create the new default contact from your outlook, you will see the
> > all phones field (such as business, home...) group together with Phone
> > Numbers header. (I tried to use that link to show what I mean and nothing
> > is
> > related to my issue.)
> > But, If I customized the contact's the first page, I do not see the Phone
> > Numbers header show up. Is this supposed to be?
> > Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
> > Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your
> > outlook,
> > you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...) group
> > together
> > with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make Phone Numbers header
> > to
> > appear in the contact even if I do not see it in the design mode?
> > Thank you.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you
> >> modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be
> >> significantly
> >> different from the unmodified standard form; see
> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21
> >
> >> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> news:98628E00-734F-4F7A-A3EF-A45A7641CA55@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> > In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
> >> > Addresses
> >> > shown up;
> >> > But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
> >> > contact,
> >> > you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
> >> > Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????
> >> >> > See what I mean and check
> >> > http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=602
> >> > in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
> >> > Business..)
> >> >> > If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field
> >> > chooser
> >> > and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?
> >> >> > Is this supposed to be?
> >> > (Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)
> >> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
THANK YOU!

"Hollis Paul" wrote:


> In article <98628E00-734F-4F7A-A3EF-A45A7641CA55@microsoft.com>,
> =?Utf-8?B?ZWQ=?= wrote:
> > See what I mean and check
> > http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=602
> > in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
> > Business..)
> >

> What you are seeing in that image opposite the blue legend of phone
> numbers is the drop-down list box of the choices for the "File as:"
> field. It truly has nothing to do with phone numbers or possible choices
> for them and will not appear in the design mode unless you expand the
> properties of the "File as:" field.

> What Sue is trying to tell you, when she says "but if you modify the
> first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly
> different from the unmodified standard form", is that, if you make any
> custom changes to the first page of the contact form, you are likely to
> break the automatic formatting of some of fields. The first to break is
> phone field formatting. Less likely is web urls, and time formatting can
> also go. My standard advice for custom form design is to put all your
> customization on an empty back page of the form and then hide the
> standard pages if you want your page to be the first thing the user sees.

> But, you mis-interpreted that image from the page you quoted, and need to
> re-think what you are trying to create.

> Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
> Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your
> outlook, you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...)
> group together with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make
> Phone Numbers header to appear in the contact even if I do not see it in
> the design mode?"

> What you need to realize is that there is private code and private
> variables what run to make the Outlook Contact Inspector appear as it
> does. You cannot change those features. The Phone Numbers header is one
> of those run-time features that you can not control or bring into the
> design mode workbench. Microsoft lets you change many features in an
> outlook form, but not the basic structure that ensures that Outlook will
> always be able to bring it up in the familiar format.

> > Hollis Paul
> Mukilteo, WA USA

> .
>
 
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