EnableEvents, Outlook equivalent

Status
Not open for further replies.

NanooVisitor

New Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
1st an aside. When I searched for "EnableEvents" as an unregistered user, there were results from a Forum search. However, as a registered users, search says there are No results.
Back to the topic, in some other MS Office 2010 products (eg Excel), EnableEvents can be used in VBA to avert mayhem caused by changing something that a new event might also access. In Outlook there is a DoEvents, which suggests that it's model assumes an event handler may cause mayhem, and blocks events while in the handler.
Background. MSWin8.1, a user with multiple .pst and one .ost (Hotmail Connector) datafile. A few rules in effect at the UI level, but that mechanism is not fine-grained enough to handle inbound emails from sources that insist on sending unwanted advertising that is quite similar to paid-for content. Hence, somewhat involved processing in ItemAdd event handlers.
 

NanooVisitor

New Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
... in some other MS Office 2010 products (eg Excel), EnableEvents can be used in VBA to avert mayhem caused by changing something that a new event might also access. In Outlook there is a DoEvents, which suggests that it's model assumes an event handler may cause mayhem, and blocks events while in the handler.
...
Forgot to mention why I'm wondering. OLK2010 seems to be causing errors in all the .pst and .ost data files, fairly frequently. Doesn't seem to impact using Outlook, but is annoying to be ScanPST often; especially since multiple passes are required on each data file. Worse, the main .pst canNot be entirely cleaned up, since after two passes, ScanPST fails to display a Repair option.
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
I'll look into the search problem. On the pst, repeated errors usually mean something is accessing the pst files (besides outlook). Third party sync software is the frequent culprit, a failing hard drive can also cause errors. You really shouldn't run scanpst all the time, just to see if there are errors - it's always going to have a few errors. When outlook loads it will check the pst and fix the errors, but if there are a lot, it will tell you to run scanpst.

For the spam filtering, you can use an itemadd macro or a run a script rule, if the junk filter or standard rules aren't sufficient.

I'm not sure I'd say doevents or enable events purpose is to avert mayhem...


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

NanooVisitor

New Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
... Third party sync software is the frequent culprit, a failing hard drive can also cause errors. ...
HardDrive is fairly new, and diagnostics indicate it is fine. No 3rd-party sync sw, but several 3rd-party COM Addin-Ins: 1) Classic Menu, 2) Redemption Helper.
I did notice several COM Add-Ins that are not in use, so will disable: 1) Microsoft Exchange Add-in, 2) Microsoft Outlook Social Connector, 3) Microsoft SharePoint Server Colleague Import, 4) OneNote Notes about Outlook Items.
 

Diane Poremsky

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2016 32 bit
Email Account
Office 365 Exchange
HardDrive is fairly new, and diagnostics indicate it is fine. No 3rd-party sync sw, but several 3rd-party COM Addin-Ins: 1) Classic Menu, 2) Redemption Helper.
I did notice several COM Add-Ins that are not in use, so will disable: 1) Microsoft Exchange Add-in, 2) Microsoft Outlook Social Connector, 3) Microsoft SharePoint Server Colleague Import, 4) OneNote Notes about Outlook Items.
The 4 from microsoft won't cause problems but if you aren't using those features, they can remain disabled. Classic menu shouldn't cause problems but I'm not sure how it is integrated either. Whatever installed redemption helper could be the cause, but it really depends on what installed it.

Scanning the pst using antivirus software can also cause errors in the pst.
 

NanooVisitor

New Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
DoEvents does not block any events, it's rather the opposite. See some details here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.forms.application.doevents(v=vs.110).aspx

In some cases a DoEvents might be necessary, however, if you don't know what you do it rather adds to any mayhem as it can confuse the usual order of the events.

I only use DoEvents where something has been done in an event handler that seems likely to cause a DeadlyEmbrace. It would be better to determine that such a condition can occur, but that can be tricky.
 

NanooVisitor

New Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
The 4 from microsoft won't cause problems but if you aren't using those features, they can remain disabled. Classic menu shouldn't cause problems but I'm not sure how it is integrated either. Whatever installed redemption helper could be the cause, but it really depends on what installed it.

Scanning the pst using antivirus software can also cause errors in the pst.
I installed Redemption helper, to be able to look at mail item elements that Outlook security model blocks access to.
As to antivirus, the Win8.1 computer where the issues occur only uses Windows Defender (that MS says replaces MS Security Essentials, after Win7).
 

Michael Bauer

Senior Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
Exchange Server
The Redemption Helper is an addition to the Redemption. You don't need the first in order to use the latter.

For testing I'd also disable classic menu.
 

NanooVisitor

New Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
The Redemption Helper is an addition to the Redemption. You don't need the first in order to use the latter.

For testing I'd also disable classic menu.
Classic Menu 6.0 got disabled inadvertently by installing MS EMET 5.1 . Update to Classic Menu 8.0 for Outlook 2010 resolved that problem.
 

NanooVisitor

New Member
Outlook version
Outlook 2010 32 bit
Email Account
I only use DoEvents where something has been done in an event handler that seems likely to cause a DeadlyEmbrace. It would be better to determine that such a condition can occur, but that can be tricky.
Turned out that, whatever had earlier implied a need for DoEvents, had been ObE. Not yet clear whether pulling DoEvents has cleared up causing errors in the *.pst and *.ost. However, it did resolve one oddity in the navigation pane, where back-tracking (<Alt><lt-arrow>) would not always retrace through folders visited -- DoEvents had likely been implicated in corrupting a list of folders that had been visited.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
S Outlook 2021 Can you make emails from 3 word domains "safe" by entering top 2 word domain into Safe List in Outlook? Using Outlook 1
@ Outlook Using Outlook 2
kburrows Outlook 365 - Ribbon Customizations Disappear Using Outlook 0
D Wishlist How to use 'app password' in Outlook 2003 after Google pulled plug on "less secure apps" Using Outlook 1
L Restoring Outlook from backup pst file Using Outlook 5
e_a_g_l_e_p_i Kernel Outlook .pst viewer Using Outlook 3
L Outlook 365 Outlook not working on linux how to solve it Using Outlook.com accounts in Outlook 0
T Outlook 2019 Using Gmail aliases in Outlook Using Outlook 6
S Activities in Outlook Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 3
S ios outlook Using Outlook.com accounts in Outlook 0
W Transfer Outlook 2016 autocomplete file to Outlook 2007 Using Outlook 1
V iCloud calendar problems, Outlook shuts down immediately Using Outlook 2
S Outlook Macro for [Date][Subject] Using Outlook 1
E Outlook - Macro - send list of Tasks which are not finished Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 3
E Outlook - eliminate same adresses from to, and bc line Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 0
R How to force Outlook to use plain text in notes for Contacts? Using Outlook 1
G Outlook Express (DBX) to Outlook (PST) Conversion Software Wanted Using Outlook 1
J Outlook 2016 Can't display some embedded HTML images in Outlook 2016 Using Outlook 2
J Outlook EAS protocol version Using Outlook 1
N Outlook 2021 'Run Script" Rules? Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 4
C Why does Outlook (desktop) 365 for Windows keep making me input my passwords? Using Outlook 8
P Comcast IMAP broken but their second level support said to call "the Outlook company" Using Outlook 4
bdsermons Outlook 365 command button in outlook form Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 4
B iCloud telling me my Outlook is not supported Using Outlook 2
cheapfaremart Which outlook version is best? Using Outlook 0
T Outlook 2021 Cannot open attachments Outlook DeskTop 2021 Using Outlook 0
M Outlook settings will not accept a password Using Outlook 9
C Outlook FROM ADDRESS -Outlook.com and Android Using Outlook 1
E Outlook 365 Outlook/VBA Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 11
O How to find and replace a word in Outlook-Agenda-Subject and Message? Using Outlook 0
gproston Why doesn't Outlook remember indexing? Using Outlook 1
X Open Hyperlinks in an Outlook Email Message (Help with Diane's solution) Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 3
J Outlook 2003 .pst Will Not Restore Completely to Outlook 2019 Using Outlook 5
R Outlook Logging Using Outlook 6
e_a_g_l_e_p_i Email notifications changed with Outlook 2021 Using Outlook 8
Y Disable Microsoft Outlook Test Message Using Outlook 5
J Outlook 365 Outlook 2016/365 Contacts Lose Info when Favorited to the To-Do Bar Using Outlook 2
Commodore Are newer versions of Outlook still "less secure" to Google? Using Outlook 22
Commodore Any way to create "from-only" account on Outlook 2021? Using Outlook 1
Z Outlook.com OST Stopped working without explanation Using Outlook.com accounts in Outlook 3
glnz How to retrieve or redo Verizon.net email password without affecting Outlook connection? Using Outlook 1
S New Outlook Appointment - Select All Body Text and Change Font and Size Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
V Outlook 2021 Outlook-2021 (64-bit) and iCloud-for-Windows v13.0 - It Works Good. Using Outlook 9
O Outlook 365 - Gmail and Outlook: how to force Outlook to start up in Gmail? Using Outlook 2
M Seeking PDF Recommendation for Outlook that retains links Using Outlook 7
J SCANPST errors Outlook PST repair? Using Outlook 1
L did MS ever add way to text via Outlook Using Outlook 5
M Outlook 365 refuses to send email Using Outlook 1
P How can I stop Outlook 365 duplicating the posts? Using Outlook 2
P How to add a column named categories when searching in Outlook Using Outlook 0

Similar threads

Top