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Harry

Hi,

This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user

imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received

by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of

them has already stored the email....?

Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?

Thanks!
 
PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.

You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)

-

"Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
> This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> them has already stored the email....?

> Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?

> Thanks!
 
Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed

to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,

copied etc?

Thank you!

On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
wrote:
> PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.

> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> OutlookSpy  - Outlook, CDO
>

> -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi,
> > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> > them has already stored the email....?

>
> > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?

>
> > Thanks!
 
Also, this just occured to me.....since the prop says

internet_header .... wht abt messages sent in intra-organizational

Exchange emails not the ones sent over the internet??

Again, thank you for your time and patience!!

On Aug 11, 8:16 am, Harry <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed
> to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> copied etc?

> Thank you!

> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
> wrote:
>
> > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.

>
> > > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> > OutlookSpy  - Outlook, CDO
> >

> > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com....

>
> > > Hi,
> > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> > > them has already stored the email....?

>
> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?

>
> > > Thanks!
 
The property should stay unchanged.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)

-

"Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:afbd6640-f1a3-4c61-a008-fd82e2b95b77@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...

Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed

to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,

copied etc?

Thank you!

On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
wrote:
> PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.

> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
>

>

> -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi,
> > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> > them has already stored the email....?

>
> > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?

>
> > Thanks!
 
Exchange 2007 always creates that property. Not sure about Exchange 2003.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)

-

"Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:da13d0bd-f0d3-4fb0-9d0c-8339d0ce80f0@n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com...

Also, this just occured to me.....since the prop says

internet_header .... wht abt messages sent in intra-organizational

Exchange emails not the ones sent over the internet??

Again, thank you for your time and patience!!

On Aug 11, 8:16 am, Harry <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed
> to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> copied etc?

> Thank you!

> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
> wrote:
>
> > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.

>
> > > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >

> >

> > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > Hi,
> > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> > > them has already stored the email....?

>
> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?

>
> > > Thanks!
 
Exchange 2003 creates it for internal emails also.

"Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmitry@dimastr.com> wrote in message

news:ulVY3d3GKHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Exchange 2007 always creates that property. Not sure about Exchange 2003.

> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
>

>

>
 
For mails in "Sent Items", this property does not seem to be present when

viewed using OutlookSpy.

I'm currently testing on Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007. Outlook's

Send/Receive "Send immediately when connected" checkbox is enabled.

Is there any setting on Exchange 2007 that needs to be enabled to make it

set this property accordingly?

From this KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924213

It seems that this property exists for Sent Items with Exchange 2003, with

some caveats.

"Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:


> The property should stay unchanged.

> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
>

>

>

> -
> "Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:afbd6640-f1a3-4c61-a008-fd82e2b95b77@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed
> to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> copied etc?

> Thank you!

> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
> wrote:
> > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.
> > > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >

> >

> > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> > > them has already stored the email....?

> >
> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?

> >
> > > Thanks!


>
 
Are you using a cached or online store?

Can you try to uncheck the "Use cached mode" checkbox in the Exchange

account properties dialog?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)

-

"Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message

news:B42FFCD4-089B-4964-9234-E14DD4AF90A7@microsoft.com...
> For mails in "Sent Items", this property does not seem to be present when
> viewed using OutlookSpy.

> I'm currently testing on Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007. Outlook's
> Send/Receive "Send immediately when connected" checkbox is enabled.

> Is there any setting on Exchange 2007 that needs to be enabled to make it
> set this property accordingly?

> From this KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924213
> It seems that this property exists for Sent Items with Exchange 2003, with
> some caveats.

> "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
>
> > The property should stay unchanged.
>

>> > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >

> >

> >

> > -
> > "Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:afbd6640-f1a3-4c61-a008-fd82e2b95b77@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed
> > to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> > copied etc?
>

>
>> Thank you!
>

>> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
>> wrote:
> > > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> > > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.
> >> > > > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> > >

> > >

> > > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >> > > Hi,
> > > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> > > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> > > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> > > > them has already stored the email....?
> >> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?
> >> > > Thanks!

>

>
>>
 
Ah... I see, thanks.

Didn't realise there was a "Use Cached Exchange Mode" option.

Btw, looks like cached mode is the default for Exchange deployments? Can a

organisation actually lockdown this option to non-cached so that this

technique of uniquely identifying emails upon sending becomes feasible?

"Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:


> Are you using a cached or online store?
> Can you try to uncheck the "Use cached mode" checkbox in the Exchange
> account properties dialog?

> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
>

>

>

> -
> "Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message
> news:B42FFCD4-089B-4964-9234-E14DD4AF90A7@microsoft.com...
> > For mails in "Sent Items", this property does not seem to be present when
> > viewed using OutlookSpy.
> > I'm currently testing on Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007. Outlook's
> > Send/Receive "Send immediately when connected" checkbox is enabled.
> > Is there any setting on Exchange 2007 that needs to be enabled to make it
> > set this property accordingly?
> > From this KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924213
> > It seems that this property exists for Sent Items with Exchange 2003, with
> > some caveats.
> > "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
> >
> >> The property should stay unchanged.
> >
> >> > >> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> -
> >> "Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:afbd6640-f1a3-4c61-a008-fd82e2b95b77@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> >> Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed
> >> to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> >> copied etc?
> >
> >
> >> Thank you!
> >
> >> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
> >> wrote:
> >> > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> >> > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.
> >> >> > > >> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >> >

> >> >

> >> > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the user
> >> > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is received
> >> > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one of
> >> > > them has already stored the email....?
> >> >> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?
> >> >> > > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >>


>
 
That woudl be an overkill. Why not try to retrieve that property, an if it

is not available, reopen the message in the online mode:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/834496

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)

-

"Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message

news:4DA044A6-A53E-45D8-AD39-B20ABC40D085@microsoft.com...
> Ah... I see, thanks.

> Didn't realise there was a "Use Cached Exchange Mode" option.

> Btw, looks like cached mode is the default for Exchange deployments? Can
> a
> organisation actually lockdown this option to non-cached so that this
> technique of uniquely identifying emails upon sending becomes feasible?

> "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
>
> > Are you using a cached or online store?
> > Can you try to uncheck the "Use cached mode" checkbox in the Exchange
> > account properties dialog?
>

>> > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >

> >

> >

> > -
> > "Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message
> > news:B42FFCD4-089B-4964-9234-E14DD4AF90A7@microsoft.com...
> > > For mails in "Sent Items", this property does not seem to be present
> > > when
> > > viewed using OutlookSpy.
> >> > I'm currently testing on Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007. Outlook's
> > > Send/Receive "Send immediately when connected" checkbox is enabled.
> >> > Is there any setting on Exchange 2007 that needs to be enabled to make
> > > it
> > > set this property accordingly?
> >> > From this KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924213
> > > It seems that this property exists for Sent Items with Exchange 2003,
> > > with
> > > some caveats.
> >> > "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
> >> >> The property should stay unchanged.
> > >
>> >> > > >> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> -
> > >> "Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:afbd6640-f1a3-4c61-a008-fd82e2b95b77@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > >> Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed
> > >> to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> > >> copied etc?
> > >
>> >
>> >> Thank you!
> > >
>> >> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
>> >> wrote:
> > >> > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> > >> > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.
> > >>> >> > > > >> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>> >> > news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > >>> >> > > Hi,
> > >> > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the
> > >> > > user
> > >> > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is
> > >> > > received
> > >> > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > them has already stored the email....?
> > >>> >> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?
> > >>> >> > > Thanks!
> > >
>> >
>> >>

>

>
>>
 
Hmm, good KB article, thanks.

However, based on scenario 4 in this KB article:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/924213

It seems to indicate that the retrieved message id using this method would

be different from the actual mail that was already sent out while in cached

mode?

"Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:


> That woudl be an overkill. Why not try to retrieve that property, an if it
> is not available, reopen the message in the online mode:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/834496

> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
>

>

>

> -
> "Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message
> news:4DA044A6-A53E-45D8-AD39-B20ABC40D085@microsoft.com...
> > Ah... I see, thanks.
> > Didn't realise there was a "Use Cached Exchange Mode" option.
> > Btw, looks like cached mode is the default for Exchange deployments? Can
> > a
> > organisation actually lockdown this option to non-cached so that this
> > technique of uniquely identifying emails upon sending becomes feasible?
> > "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
> >
> >> Are you using a cached or online store?
> >> Can you try to uncheck the "Use cached mode" checkbox in the Exchange
> >> account properties dialog?
> >
> >> > >> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> -
> >> "Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message
> >> news:B42FFCD4-089B-4964-9234-E14DD4AF90A7@microsoft.com...
> >> > For mails in "Sent Items", this property does not seem to be present
> >> > when
> >> > viewed using OutlookSpy.
> >> >> > I'm currently testing on Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007. Outlook's
> >> > Send/Receive "Send immediately when connected" checkbox is enabled.
> >> >> > Is there any setting on Exchange 2007 that needs to be enabled to make
> >> > it
> >> > set this property accordingly?
> >> >> > From this KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924213
> >> > It seems that this property exists for Sent Items with Exchange 2003,
> >> > with
> >> > some caveats.
> >> >> > "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
> >> >> >> The property should stay unchanged.
> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> -
> >> >> "Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:afbd6640-f1a3-4c61-a008-fd82e2b95b77@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property guaranteed
> >> >> to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> >> >> copied etc?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thank you!
> >> >
> >> >> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> >> >> > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook 2007.
> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in the
> >> >> > > user
> >> >> > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is
> >> >> > > received
> >> >> > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if one
> >> >> > > of
> >> >> > > them has already stored the email....?
> >> >> >> >> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?
> >> >> >> >> > > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >>


>
 
But you are trying to solve scenario (3).

If PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID property is already present, you would not need to

open the message in the online mode to begin with.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)

-

"Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message

news:5F4171AA-AC6A-40DF-80EC-80CF272BD192@microsoft.com...
> Hmm, good KB article, thanks.

> However, based on scenario 4 in this KB article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/924213

> It seems to indicate that the retrieved message id using this method would
> be different from the actual mail that was already sent out while in
> cached
> mode?

> "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
>
> > That woudl be an overkill. Why not try to retrieve that property, an if
> > it
> > is not available, reopen the message in the online mode:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/834496
>

>> > > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> >

> >

> >

> > -
> > "Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message
> > news:4DA044A6-A53E-45D8-AD39-B20ABC40D085@microsoft.com...
> > > Ah... I see, thanks.
> >> > Didn't realise there was a "Use Cached Exchange Mode" option.
> >> > Btw, looks like cached mode is the default for Exchange deployments?
> > > Can
> > > a
> > > organisation actually lockdown this option to non-cached so that this
> > > technique of uniquely identifying emails upon sending becomes feasible?
> >> > "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
> >> >> Are you using a cached or online store?
> > >> Can you try to uncheck the "Use cached mode" checkbox in the Exchange
> > >> account properties dialog?
> > >
>> >> > > >> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> -
> > >> "Jarrod" <Jarrod> wrote in message
> > >> news:B42FFCD4-089B-4964-9234-E14DD4AF90A7@microsoft.com...
> > >> > For mails in "Sent Items", this property does not seem to be present
> > >> > when
> > >> > viewed using OutlookSpy.
> > >>> >> > I'm currently testing on Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007. Outlook's
> > >> > Send/Receive "Send immediately when connected" checkbox is enabled.
> > >>> >> > Is there any setting on Exchange 2007 that needs to be enabled to
> > >> > make
> > >> > it
> > >> > set this property accordingly?
> > >>> >> > From this KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924213
> > >> > It seems that this property exists for Sent Items with Exchange
> > >> > 2003,
> > >> > with
> > >> > some caveats.
> > >>> >> > "Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:
> > >>> >> >> The property should stay unchanged.
> > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> >> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> > >> >>

> > >> >>

> > >> >>

> > >> >> -
> > >> >> "Harry" <silver.planet.inc@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:afbd6640-f1a3-4c61-a008-fd82e2b95b77@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > >> >> Thanks a lot Dimitry for your reply, is the above property
> > >> >> guaranteed
> > >> >> to remain unique in all cases..... if the mail item has been moved,
> > >> >> copied etc?
> > >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thank you!
> > >> >
>> >> >> On Aug 10, 11:29 pm, "Dmitry Streblechenko" <dmi...@dimastr.com
>> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > PR_INTERNET_MESSAGE_ID MAPI property shoudl do the trick.
> > >> >> > You can access it through MailItem.PropertyAccessor in Outlook
> > >> >> > 2007.
> > >> >>> >> >> > > > >> >> > Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> > >> >> >

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > -"Harry" <silver.planet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>> >> >> > news:a5168f59-5c44-401e-a111-6772841e1693@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > >> >>> >> >> > > Hi,
> > >> >> > > This is a developer q's.....currently when an email comes in
> > >> >> > > the
> > >> >> > > user
> > >> >> > > imports it to our local database. Now, if the same email is
> > >> >> > > received
> > >> >> > > by three different people......how do i notify the others if
> > >> >> > > one
> > >> >> > > of
> > >> >> > > them has already stored the email....?
> > >> >>> >> >> > > Is ther a unique email id property that i can use?
> > >> >>> >> >> > > Thanks!
> > >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>

>

>
>>
 
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