2007 Form Design loads 2003 Form

Status
Not open for further replies.
J

JoeRob

I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click Tools "Forms "

Design A Form and then click Contact " Open the form that opens is not the

current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts Folder. The

Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form

(identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I select the

form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the one used

in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the bottom).

All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others are the

Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a 2007

form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of

the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may want

to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a look

at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See

http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form quirks.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> Tools -Forms -
> Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not the
> current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts Folder.
> The
> Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I select
> the
> form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the one
> used
> in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the bottom).
> All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others are
> the
> Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a 2007
> form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
 
J

JoeRob

Sue

Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about form

regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting writing

code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I was

trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for design

and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form that

is being used by the Contacts Folder?

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of
> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may want
> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a look
> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form quirks.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >Tools -Forms -
> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not the
> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts Folder.
> > The
> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I select
> > the
> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the one
> > used
> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the bottom).
> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others are
> > the
> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a 2007
> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

> But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> is being used by the Contacts Folder?


You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to

customize, however, except with form regions.

You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom

fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder, they'll

be available on the All Fields page.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> Sue
> Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> form
> regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting writing
> code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I was
> trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> design
> and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> that
> is being used by the Contacts Folder?

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of
> > the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> > want
> > to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> > look
> > at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> > quirks.
>

>> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> > >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> > >Tools -Forms -
> > > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not
> > > the
> > > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> > > Folder.
> > > The
> > > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> > > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> > > select
> > > the
> > > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> > > one
> > > used
> > > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> > > bottom).
> > > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others
> > > are
> > > the
> > > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> > > 2007
> > > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?

>

>
>> .
> >
 
J

JoeRob

Sue,

Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure what I

know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the

General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that again,

but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that? Or,

how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on my

custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article you

suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?

Thanks for your patients

JoeRob

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?


> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to
> customize, however, except with form regions.

> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder, they'll
> be available on the All Fields page.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> > Sue
> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> > form
> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting writing
> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I was
> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> > design
> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> > that
> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of
> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> >> want
> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> >> look
> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> >> quirks.
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not
> >> > the
> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> > Folder.
> >> > The
> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> >> > select
> >> > the
> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> >> > one
> >> > used
> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> > bottom).
> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others
> >> > are
> >> > the
> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> >> > 2007
> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as for

previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it again?

Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any different

if you redo it in Outlook 2007.

Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the

folder."

Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available on

Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A

little searching should turn up all the information you need.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> Sue,
> Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure what I
> know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> again,
> but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> Or,
> how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on my
> custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article you
> suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?



> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> > > is being used by the Contacts Folder?

>

>> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to
> > customize, however, except with form regions.
>

>> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> > fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> > they'll
> > be available on the All Fields page.
>

>> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> > > Sue
> > > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> > > form
> > > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> > > writing
> > > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I
> > > was
> > > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> > > design
> > > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> > > that
> > > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance
> > >> of
> > >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> > >> want
> > >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> > >> look
> > >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> > >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> > >> quirks.
> > >
>> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> > >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> > >> >Tools -Forms -
> > >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is
> > >> > not
> > >> > the
> > >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> > >> > Folder.
> > >> > The
> > >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> > >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> > >> > select
> > >> > the
> > >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> > >> > one
> > >> > used
> > >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> > >> > bottom).
> > >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> > >> > others
> > >> > are
> > >> > the
> > >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> > >> > 2007
> > >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
 
J

JoeRob

Sue,

Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder

in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.

When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is green

and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to look

like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for design

and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a

Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I proceed

to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?

PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as for
> previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it again?
> Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any different
> if you redo it in Outlook 2007.

> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> folder."

> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available on
> Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure what I
> > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> > again,
> > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> > Or,
> > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on my
> > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article you
> > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?

>
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >
> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to
> >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> >
> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> >> they'll
> >> be available on the All Fields page.
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sue
> >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> >> > form
> >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> >> > writing
> >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I
> >> > was
> >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> >> > design
> >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> >> > that
> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance
> >> >> of
> >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> >> >> want
> >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> >> >> look
> >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> >> >> quirks.
> >> >
> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> >> > Folder.
> >> >> > The
> >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> >> >> > select
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> >> >> > one
> >> >> > used
> >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> >> > bottom).
> >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> >> >> > 2007
> >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

I've already answered this for you, more than once. Bottom line: You are

expecting something from Outlook that it doesn't do. You cannot update your

custom form to look like the Outlook 2007 form unless you switch completely

to form regions.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:8D60FD6E-DE5D-4753-A934-162C52C250B5@microsoft.com...
> Sue,
> Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact
> Folder
> in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.
> When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is
> green
> and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to
> look
> like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for
> design
> and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a
> Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I
> proceed
> to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?
> PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as
> > for
> > previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it
> > again?
> > Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any
> > different
> > if you redo it in Outlook 2007.
>

>> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> > folder."
>

>> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available
> > on
> > Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> > little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> > > > Sue Mosher
> > >> >> >
>
>> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> > > Sue,
> > > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure
> > > what I
> > > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> > > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> > > again,
> > > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> > > Or,
> > > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on
> > > my
> > > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article
> > > you
> > > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?

> >
> > > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> > >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> > >
>> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available
> > >> to
> > >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> > >
>> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> > >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> > >> they'll
> > >> be available on the All Fields page.
> > >
>> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Sue
> > >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help
> > >> > about
> > >> > form
> > >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> > >> > writing
> > >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what
> > >> > I
> > >> > was
> > >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> > >> > design
> > >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact
> > >> > form
> > >> > that
> > >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> > >>> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> > >>> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal
> > >> >> appearance
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you
> > >> >> may
> > >> >> want
> > >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> look
> > >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> > >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact
> > >> >> form
> > >> >> quirks.
> > >> >
>> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> > >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> > >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens
> > >> >> > is
> > >> >> > not
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> > >> >> > Folder.
> > >> >> > The
> > >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact
> > >> >> > Form
> > >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When
> > >> >> > I
> > >> >> > select
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > one
> > >> >> > used
> > >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> > >> >> > bottom).
> > >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> > >> >> > others
> > >> >> > are
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue
> > >> >> > indicateing a
> > >> >> > 2007
> > >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?

>

>
>> .
> >
 
J

JoeRob

Sue

I know I'm being a pest, but I'm just trying to understant (learn). You

convinced me I have to switch completely to form regions. OK, I'm I

switched. I found a copy of Chapter 5 from your book on the internet and

after reading the chapter I tried to follow the example. I got as far as

changing the registry. Your example calls for

"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions ". On my

computer there is no folder "FormRegions" in "Outlook". See Fig 5.5. The

first folder that you show in Fig 5.5 "Addin" is there. When I look at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and expand the folder, I find

"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions" and the

contents of folder Outlook look like your Fig 5.5. Can I place the example

in this folder. Will this work? How should I proceed?

PS: You mention chapter 4 in chapter 5. Is this chapter also on the internet?

JoRob

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> I've already answered this for you, more than once. Bottom line: You are
> expecting something from Outlook that it doesn't do. You cannot update your
> custom form to look like the Outlook 2007 form unless you switch completely
> to form regions.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:8D60FD6E-DE5D-4753-A934-162C52C250B5@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact
> > Folder
> > in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.
> > When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is
> > green
> > and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to
> > look
> > like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for
> > design
> > and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a
> > Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I
> > proceed
> > to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?
> > PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as
> >> for
> >> previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it
> >> again?
> >> Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any
> >> different
> >> if you redo it in Outlook 2007.
> >
> >> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> >> folder."
> >
> >> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available
> >> on
> >> Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> >> little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> >> > >> Sue Mosher
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sue,
> >> > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure
> >> > what I
> >> > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> >> > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> >> > again,
> >> > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> >> > Or,
> >> > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on
> >> > my
> >> > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article
> >> > you
> >> > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?
> >
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >
> >> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available
> >> >> to
> >> >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> >> >
> >> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> >> >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> >> >> they'll
> >> >> be available on the All Fields page.
> >> >
> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Sue
> >> >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> >> >> > writing
> >> >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> >> >> > design
> >> >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal
> >> >> >> appearance
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you
> >> >> >> may
> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> look
> >> >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact
> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> quirks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> >> >> > Folder.
> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact
> >> >> >> > Form
> >> >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > select
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > one
> >> >> >> > used
> >> >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> >> >> > bottom).
> >> >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> >> >> >> > others
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue
> >> >> >> > indicateing a
> >> >> >> > 2007
> >> >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
J

JoeRob

Sue,

I just reread Chapter 5 and see where I missed the option to use

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. So I add key per instructions and re-booted. After

re-booting, I open a contact and don't see form region. How do I open First

Contact to edit "debug" form and registry?

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> I've already answered this for you, more than once. Bottom line: You are
> expecting something from Outlook that it doesn't do. You cannot update your
> custom form to look like the Outlook 2007 form unless you switch completely
> to form regions.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:8D60FD6E-DE5D-4753-A934-162C52C250B5@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact
> > Folder
> > in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.
> > When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is
> > green
> > and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to
> > look
> > like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for
> > design
> > and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a
> > Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I
> > proceed
> > to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?
> > PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as
> >> for
> >> previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it
> >> again?
> >> Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any
> >> different
> >> if you redo it in Outlook 2007.
> >
> >> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> >> folder."
> >
> >> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available
> >> on
> >> Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> >> little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> >> > >> Sue Mosher
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sue,
> >> > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure
> >> > what I
> >> > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> >> > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> >> > again,
> >> > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> >> > Or,
> >> > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on
> >> > my
> >> > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article
> >> > you
> >> > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?
> >
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >
> >> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available
> >> >> to
> >> >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> >> >
> >> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> >> >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> >> >> they'll
> >> >> be available on the All Fields page.
> >> >
> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Sue
> >> >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> >> >> > writing
> >> >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> >> >> > design
> >> >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal
> >> >> >> appearance
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you
> >> >> >> may
> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> look
> >> >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact
> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> quirks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> >> >> > Folder.
> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact
> >> >> >> > Form
> >> >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > select
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > one
> >> >> >> > used
> >> >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> >> >> > bottom).
> >> >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> >> >> >> > others
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue
> >> >> >> > indicateing a
> >> >> >> > 2007
> >> >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

I have no idea what you mean by First Contact. We can't help much with form

regions, unless you provide complete details -- the registry entry, the XML

file, and the location of the .ops file.

The registry has no folders. It has keys. If the one you want isn't there

already, add it. This is Registry 101:. Make a backup before you mess with

it. You should be able to use either the HKCU or HKLM hive.

I have no control over what material from my book is available through

Google Books.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:EA26ABAA-55A0-46B1-99C2-91D0DE6E22E0@microsoft.com...
> Sue,
> I just reread Chapter 5 and see where I missed the option to use
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. So I add key per instructions and re-booted. After
> re-booting, I open a contact and don't see form region. How do I open
> First
> Contact to edit "debug" form and registry?
> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:C69241CE-4A4C-4E6D-A0DC-751C9B863A33@microsoft.com...

> Sue
> I know I'm being a pest, but I'm just trying to understant (learn). You
> convinced me I have to switch completely to form regions. OK, I'm I
> switched. I found a copy of Chapter 5 from your book on the internet
> and
> after reading the chapter I tried to follow the example. I got as far as
> changing the registry. Your example calls for
> "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions ". On my
> computer there is no folder "FormRegions" in "Outlook". See Fig 5.5. The
> first folder that you show in Fig 5.5 "Addin" is there. When I look at
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and expand the folder, I find
> "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions" and the
> contents of folder Outlook look like your Fig 5.5. Can I place the
> example
> in this folder. Will this work? How should I proceed?
> PS: You mention chapter 4 in chapter 5. Is this chapter also on the
> internet?
> JoRob
 
J

JoeRob

Sue

You have been most patient with me and I thank you for your time. With your

patents and Chapter 5 of your book (authorized or not) I completed the

example in Chapter 5. Eventually I will understand what I did, or at least

have some glimmer of the truth. Thanks you for your help

PS: Just out of curiosity, since the first page of the Contact form is not

the form we see when opening a Contact, how does outlook load that the

correct form region? Or is that a dumb as my other questions.

JoRob

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> I have no idea what you mean by First Contact. We can't help much with form
> regions, unless you provide complete details -- the registry entry, the XML
> file, and the location of the .ops file.

> The registry has no folders. It has keys. If the one you want isn't there
> already, add it. This is Registry 101:. Make a backup before you mess with
> it. You should be able to use either the HKCU or HKLM hive.

> I have no control over what material from my book is available through
> Google Books.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:EA26ABAA-55A0-46B1-99C2-91D0DE6E22E0@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > I just reread Chapter 5 and see where I missed the option to use
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. So I add key per instructions and re-booted. After
> > re-booting, I open a contact and don't see form region. How do I open
> > First
> > Contact to edit "debug" form and registry?
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:C69241CE-4A4C-4E6D-A0DC-751C9B863A33@microsoft.com...
> > Sue
> > I know I'm being a pest, but I'm just trying to understant (learn). You
> > convinced me I have to switch completely to form regions. OK, I'm I
> > switched. I found a copy of Chapter 5 from your book on the internet
> > and
> > after reading the chapter I tried to follow the example. I got as far as
> > changing the registry. Your example calls for
> > "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions ". On my
> > computer there is no folder "FormRegions" in "Outlook". See Fig 5.5. The
> > first folder that you show in Fig 5.5 "Addin" is there. When I look at
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and expand the folder, I find
> > "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions" and the
> > contents of folder Outlook look like your Fig 5.5. Can I place the
> > example
> > in this folder. Will this work? How should I proceed?
> > PS: You mention chapter 4 in chapter 5. Is this chapter also on the
> > internet?
> > JoRob


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

I'm glad to hear you got through the example!

I don't understand your question, though. Outlook determines what form

region(s) to load based on (a) the value of the MessageClass property of the

item, (b) the values associated with form region registrations in the

Windows registry, and (c) the XML manifest(s) for those regions.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <jorob.roadrunner.com> wrote in message

news:A684233E-B808-4D0D-9F2F-59078409DDB3@microsoft.com...

> Sue
> You have been most patient with me and I thank you for your time. With
> your
> patents and Chapter 5 of your book (authorized or not) I completed the
> example in Chapter 5. Eventually I will understand what I did, or at
> least
> have some glimmer of the truth. Thanks you for your help
> PS: Just out of curiosity, since the first page of the Contact form is not
> the form we see when opening a Contact, how does outlook load that the
> correct form region? Or is that a dumb as my other questions.
> JoRob
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
J Can Click to Drag Custom Form Field But Cannot Drop When Designing in Outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
L Outlook 2007 Contact Form Code Not Working Using Outlook 20
P Task form created in outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
Z how to make OL (2007) to use custom contact form when importing / opening .VCF? Using Outlook 1
L Outlook 2007 Custom Form and Toolbar Not Working Using Outlook 5
L Outlook 2007 Contact Form Webpage Using Outlook 23
J New Outlook 2007 form - try to send and get error Operation Failed Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 11
Z outlook 2007 - opening a contact from the search results doesn't use the custom form Using Outlook 10
L Outlook 2007 Macro to Run a Script From a Contact Form Using Outlook 41
L Outlook 2007 Contact Form - Note Fields Using Outlook 25
D Outlook 2007 Custom Form - Dual Addresses and Mailing Address Using Outlook 6
D Customizing Tasks form in Outlook 2007 Using Outlook 4
R Clean out the "Other Calendars" form Outlook 2007 sp2 Using Outlook 1
M open outlook contacts in access 2007 form Using Outlook 1
M Phone Message form in outlook 2007. How to start? Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
K Publish form to folder - Outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
F Outlook 2003 form cannot be loaded in 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
V 2007 form or template that has un-editable text Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 3
B Outlook 2007 form into access field format Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 9
B Importing Contacts Does Not Use Defined Custom Form in Outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
R Changing the default message form in Outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
J Creating form in Outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
S Outlook 2007 Contacts Form - how to link to other contacts? Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
L Oulook 2003 Form upgraded to 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 3
D Form Outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 4
J Extra text on an Outlook 2007 custom form Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
K Accessing contact's custom properties in a Outlook 2007 form region Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
S Make field searchable in custom form in outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
T Outlook 2007 Form Template Icon Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
T Outlook 2007 Email Form Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 8
T Custom form created in 2003 won't print since upgrade to 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 1
T Custom form created in 2003 won't print since upgrade to 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 13
S Outlook 2007: automating form with macro Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
T How to export custom form from exchange 2003 to exchange 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
J Outlook 2007 using custom form created for Outlook 2003 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 2
B Outlook 2007 Custom Form does not display in 2003 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 3
J outlook 2007 doesn't let me choose which .pst to search Using Outlook 2
D Outlook 2007 vs. Outlook 2010 -- ToDo Bar Using Outlook 0
D Outlook 2007 on 365 Using Outlook.com accounts in Outlook 2
S Macro for other actions - Outlook 2007 Outlook VBA and Custom Forms 23
S Verwendung von Outlook 2007 Using Outlook 0
A Arthur needs help with 2007 Outlook e-mail Using Outlook.com accounts in Outlook 3
M PST import from Outlook 2007 to 2010 - Address Book contacts all in 1 group Using Outlook 4
S outlook 2007 calendar search Using Outlook 6
B Migrate Outlook 2007 to Office 365 Using Outlook 3
X I have met my waterloo trying to resolve embedded graphics problem with outlook 2007 and now 2016 Using Outlook 1
R Outlook 2007 only loads some appointments Using Outlook 0
C Move Outlook 2007 to new PC with Outlook 365 Using Outlook 3
J Outlook 2007 Hide Messages Option not Available Using Outlook 2
B Outllok 2007 License Expired issue Using Outlook 0

Similar threads

Top