2007 Form Design loads 2003 Form

[JoeRob]

I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click Tools "Forms "

Design A Form and then click Contact " Open the form that opens is not the

current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts Folder. The

Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form

(identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I select the

form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the one used

in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the bottom).

All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others are the

Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a 2007

form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of

the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may want

to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a look

at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See

http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form quirks.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> Tools -Forms -
> Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not the
> current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts Folder.
> The
> Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I select
> the
> form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the one
> used
> in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the bottom).
> All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others are
> the
> Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a 2007
> form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?

 

[JoeRob]

Sue

Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about form

regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting writing

code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I was

trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for design

and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form that

is being used by the Contacts Folder?

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of
> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may want
> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a look
> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form quirks.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >Tools -Forms -
> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not the
> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts Folder.
> > The
> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I select
> > the
> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the one
> > used
> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the bottom).
> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others are
> > the
> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a 2007
> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?

> .
>

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

> But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> is being used by the Contacts Folder?

You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to

customize, however, except with form regions.

You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom

fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder, they'll

be available on the All Fields page.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> Sue
> Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> form
> regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting writing
> code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I was
> trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> design
> and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> that
> is being used by the Contacts Folder?

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of
> > the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> > want
> > to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> > look
> > at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> > quirks.
>

>> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> > >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> > >Tools -Forms -
> > > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not
> > > the
> > > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> > > Folder.
> > > The
> > > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> > > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> > > select
> > > the
> > > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> > > one
> > > used
> > > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> > > bottom).
> > > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others
> > > are
> > > the
> > > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> > > 2007
> > > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
>

>
>> .
> >

 

[JoeRob]

Sue,

Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure what I

know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the

General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that again,

but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that? Or,

how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on my

custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article you

suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?

Thanks for your patients

JoeRob

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?

> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to
> customize, however, except with form regions.

> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder, they'll
> be available on the All Fields page.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> > Sue
> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> > form
> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting writing
> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I was
> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> > design
> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> > that
> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance of
> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> >> want
> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> >> look
> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> >> quirks.
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is not
> >> > the
> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> > Folder.
> >> > The
> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> >> > select
> >> > the
> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> >> > one
> >> > used
> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> > bottom).
> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some others
> >> > are
> >> > the
> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> >> > 2007
> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>

> .
>

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as for

previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it again?

Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any different

if you redo it in Outlook 2007.

Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the

folder."

Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available on

Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A

little searching should turn up all the information you need.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> Sue,
> Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure what I
> know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> again,
> but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> Or,
> how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on my
> custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article you
> suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?


> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> > > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
>

>> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to
> > customize, however, except with form regions.
>

>> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> > fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> > they'll
> > be available on the All Fields page.
>

>> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> > > Sue
> > > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> > > form
> > > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> > > writing
> > > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I
> > > was
> > > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> > > design
> > > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> > > that
> > > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance
> > >> of
> > >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> > >> want
> > >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> > >> look
> > >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> > >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> > >> quirks.
> > >
>> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> > >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> > >> >Tools -Forms -
> > >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is
> > >> > not
> > >> > the
> > >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> > >> > Folder.
> > >> > The
> > >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> > >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> > >> > select
> > >> > the
> > >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> > >> > one
> > >> > used
> > >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> > >> > bottom).
> > >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> > >> > others
> > >> > are
> > >> > the
> > >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> > >> > 2007
> > >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?

 

[JoeRob]

Sue,

Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder

in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.

When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is green

and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to look

like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for design

and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a

Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I proceed

to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?

PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as for
> previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it again?
> Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any different
> if you redo it in Outlook 2007.

> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> folder."

> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available on
> Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure what I
> > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> > again,
> > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> > Or,
> > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on my
> > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article you
> > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?
>
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >
> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available to
> >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> >
> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> >> they'll
> >> be available on the All Fields page.
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sue
> >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help about
> >> > form
> >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> >> > writing
> >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what I
> >> > was
> >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> >> > design
> >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact form
> >> > that
> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal appearance
> >> >> of
> >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you may
> >> >> want
> >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take a
> >> >> look
> >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact form
> >> >> quirks.
> >> >
> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens is
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> >> > Folder.
> >> >> > The
> >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact Form
> >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When I
> >> >> > select
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is the
> >> >> > one
> >> >> > used
> >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> >> > bottom).
> >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue indicateing a
> >> >> > 2007
> >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?

> .
>

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

I've already answered this for you, more than once. Bottom line: You are

expecting something from Outlook that it doesn't do. You cannot update your

custom form to look like the Outlook 2007 form unless you switch completely

to form regions.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:8D60FD6E-DE5D-4753-A934-162C52C250B5@microsoft.com...
> Sue,
> Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact
> Folder
> in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.
> When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is
> green
> and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to
> look
> like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for
> design
> and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a
> Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I
> proceed
> to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?
> PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as
> > for
> > previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it
> > again?
> > Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any
> > different
> > if you redo it in Outlook 2007.
>

>> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> > folder."
>

>> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available
> > on
> > Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> > little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> > > > Sue Mosher
> > >> >> >
>
>> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> > > Sue,
> > > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure
> > > what I
> > > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> > > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> > > again,
> > > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> > > Or,
> > > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on
> > > my
> > > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article
> > > you
> > > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?
> >
> > > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> > >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> > >
>> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available
> > >> to
> > >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> > >
>> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> > >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> > >> they'll
> > >> be available on the All Fields page.
> > >
>> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Sue
> > >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help
> > >> > about
> > >> > form
> > >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> > >> > writing
> > >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what
> > >> > I
> > >> > was
> > >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> > >> > design
> > >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact
> > >> > form
> > >> > that
> > >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> > >>> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> > >>> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal
> > >> >> appearance
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you
> > >> >> may
> > >> >> want
> > >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> look
> > >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> > >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact
> > >> >> form
> > >> >> quirks.
> > >> >
>> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> > >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> > >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens
> > >> >> > is
> > >> >> > not
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> > >> >> > Folder.
> > >> >> > The
> > >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact
> > >> >> > Form
> > >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When
> > >> >> > I
> > >> >> > select
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > one
> > >> >> > used
> > >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> > >> >> > bottom).
> > >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> > >> >> > others
> > >> >> > are
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue
> > >> >> > indicateing a
> > >> >> > 2007
> > >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
>

>
>> .
> >

 

[JoeRob]

Sue

I know I'm being a pest, but I'm just trying to understant (learn). You

convinced me I have to switch completely to form regions. OK, I'm I

switched. I found a copy of Chapter 5 from your book on the internet and

after reading the chapter I tried to follow the example. I got as far as

changing the registry. Your example calls for

"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions ". On my

computer there is no folder "FormRegions" in "Outlook". See Fig 5.5. The

first folder that you show in Fig 5.5 "Addin" is there. When I look at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and expand the folder, I find

"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions" and the

contents of folder Outlook look like your Fig 5.5. Can I place the example

in this folder. Will this work? How should I proceed?

PS: You mention chapter 4 in chapter 5. Is this chapter also on the internet?

JoRob

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> I've already answered this for you, more than once. Bottom line: You are
> expecting something from Outlook that it doesn't do. You cannot update your
> custom form to look like the Outlook 2007 form unless you switch completely
> to form regions.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:8D60FD6E-DE5D-4753-A934-162C52C250B5@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact
> > Folder
> > in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.
> > When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is
> > green
> > and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to
> > look
> > like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for
> > design
> > and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a
> > Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I
> > proceed
> > to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?
> > PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as
> >> for
> >> previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it
> >> again?
> >> Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any
> >> different
> >> if you redo it in Outlook 2007.
> >
> >> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> >> folder."
> >
> >> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available
> >> on
> >> Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> >> little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> >> > >> Sue Mosher
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sue,
> >> > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure
> >> > what I
> >> > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> >> > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> >> > again,
> >> > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> >> > Or,
> >> > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on
> >> > my
> >> > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article
> >> > you
> >> > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?
> >
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >
> >> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available
> >> >> to
> >> >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> >> >
> >> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> >> >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> >> >> they'll
> >> >> be available on the All Fields page.
> >> >
> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Sue
> >> >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> >> >> > writing
> >> >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> >> >> > design
> >> >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal
> >> >> >> appearance
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you
> >> >> >> may
> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> look
> >> >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact
> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> quirks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> >> >> > Folder.
> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact
> >> >> >> > Form
> >> >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > select
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > one
> >> >> >> > used
> >> >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> >> >> > bottom).
> >> >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> >> >> >> > others
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue
> >> >> >> > indicateing a
> >> >> >> > 2007
> >> >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>

> .
>

 

[JoeRob]

Sue,

I just reread Chapter 5 and see where I missed the option to use

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. So I add key per instructions and re-booted. After

re-booting, I open a contact and don't see form region. How do I open First

Contact to edit "debug" form and registry?

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> I've already answered this for you, more than once. Bottom line: You are
> expecting something from Outlook that it doesn't do. You cannot update your
> custom form to look like the Outlook 2007 form unless you switch completely
> to form regions.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:8D60FD6E-DE5D-4753-A934-162C52C250B5@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > Can I go back to ground zero. When I open a Contact from the Contact
> > Folder
> > in 2007 the background is blue and the notes are at the left of the form.
> > When I open a Contact from the Contact Folder in 2000 the background is
> > green
> > and the notes are at the bottom. I set out to undate my custom form to
> > look
> > like the 2007 form. I thought this would be easy. Open contact for
> > design
> > and add my textboxes. Done - save as my custom form. But when I open a
> > Contact form for design, I get the 2000 Contact Form. Why? How do I
> > proceed
> > to get the 2007 Contact Form for design?
> > PS I'll look into your book. Who knows I might get smarter.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> The custom form design process for Outlook 2007 is exactly the same as
> >> for
> >> previous version. But if you've already done it, why are you doing it
> >> again?
> >> Why not use the form you already have? It's not going to look any
> >> different
> >> if you redo it in Outlook 2007.
> >
> >> Sorry, but I don't understand your quesion about "add these items to the
> >> folder."
> >
> >> Form regions are covered in a chapter in my book that should be available
> >> on
> >> Google Books, and in many articles both on microsoft.com and elsewhere. A
> >> little searching should turn up all the information you need.
> >> > >> Sue Mosher
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >
> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> news:FD582D33-7AA5-4EE3-A433-22CE2E7DD7E2@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sue,
> >> > Thanks again for your response. Frankly at this point I'm not sure
> >> > what I
> >> > know and don't know. Previously, I added 3 textbox and 3 labels to the
> >> > General Page and 1 textbox and 1 label to P2. I was going to do that
> >> > again,
> >> > but with the 2007 version of Contact form. Is there a way to do that?
> >> > Or,
> >> > how do I add these items to the folder and have those items visible on
> >> > my
> >> > custom (new) form? Is there an article I can read (I read the article
> >> > you
> >> > suggested) to get better acquainted with form regions?
> >
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> > But w(h)ere is the Contact form that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >
> >> >> You're looking at it. The layout of the built-in form isn't available
> >> >> to
> >> >> customize, however, except with form regions.
> >> >
> >> >> You know, right, that you don't need a custom form to work with custom
> >> >> fields? If you've created the new field definitions in the folder,
> >> >> they'll
> >> >> be available on the All Fields page.
> >> >
> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> news:7857B25B-A387-40F8-A597-E262AA413E02@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Sue
> >> >> > Thanks for your response, I think. I read several items in help
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > regions. I even followed and example, until the example starting
> >> >> > writing
> >> >> > code to the registry. At that point, I'm lost. I didn't think what
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > trying to do was that involved. All I want to do is open a form for
> >> >> > design
> >> >> > and add a couple of user defined fields. But were is the Contact
> >> >> > form
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > is being used by the Contacts Folder?
> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> There's nothing to fix. What you've described is the normal
> >> >> >> appearance
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the contact form's design surface. Depending on your scenario, you
> >> >> >> may
> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> to customize P.2-P.5, not the General page, or you may want to take
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> look
> >> >> >> at the new form region feature in Outlook 2007. See
> >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21 for other contact
> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> quirks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:193F3ABE-5FA7-4604-8961-CA5C3FC638AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I tried to update a custom form in Outlook 2007. When I click
> >> >> >> >Tools -Forms -
> >> >> >> > Design A Form and then click Contact - Open the form that opens
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > current version of the Contact form that appears in the Contacts
> >> >> >> > Folder.
> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> > Contacts in the Contact folder use the new Outlook 2007 Contact
> >> >> >> > Form
> >> >> >> > (identified by a blue background and notes on right side). When
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > select
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > form Contact for design; the form that appears in design mode is
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > one
> >> >> >> > used
> >> >> >> > in Outlook 2000 (the one with a green background and notes at the
> >> >> >> > bottom).
> >> >> >> > All pages are not the old form; The General Page, P2 and some
> >> >> >> > others
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Outlook 2000 design. Some of the later pages are blue
> >> >> >> > indicateing a
> >> >> >> > 2007
> >> >> >> > form. So, what have I done now and how do I fix It?
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>

> .
>

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

I have no idea what you mean by First Contact. We can't help much with form

regions, unless you provide complete details -- the registry entry, the XML

file, and the location of the .ops file.

The registry has no folders. It has keys. If the one you want isn't there

already, add it. This is Registry 101:. Make a backup before you mess with

it. You should be able to use either the HKCU or HKLM hive.

I have no control over what material from my book is available through

Google Books.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:EA26ABAA-55A0-46B1-99C2-91D0DE6E22E0@microsoft.com...
> Sue,
> I just reread Chapter 5 and see where I missed the option to use
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. So I add key per instructions and re-booted. After
> re-booting, I open a contact and don't see form region. How do I open
> First
> Contact to edit "debug" form and registry?
> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

"JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message

news:C69241CE-4A4C-4E6D-A0DC-751C9B863A33@microsoft.com...

> Sue
> I know I'm being a pest, but I'm just trying to understant (learn). You
> convinced me I have to switch completely to form regions. OK, I'm I
> switched. I found a copy of Chapter 5 from your book on the internet
> and
> after reading the chapter I tried to follow the example. I got as far as
> changing the registry. Your example calls for
> "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions ". On my
> computer there is no folder "FormRegions" in "Outlook". See Fig 5.5. The
> first folder that you show in Fig 5.5 "Addin" is there. When I look at
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and expand the folder, I find
> "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions" and the
> contents of folder Outlook look like your Fig 5.5. Can I place the
> example
> in this folder. Will this work? How should I proceed?
> PS: You mention chapter 4 in chapter 5. Is this chapter also on the
> internet?
> JoRob

 

[JoeRob]

Sue

You have been most patient with me and I thank you for your time. With your

patents and Chapter 5 of your book (authorized or not) I completed the

example in Chapter 5. Eventually I will understand what I did, or at least

have some glimmer of the truth. Thanks you for your help

PS: Just out of curiosity, since the first page of the Contact form is not

the form we see when opening a Contact, how does outlook load that the

correct form region? Or is that a dumb as my other questions.

JoRob

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> I have no idea what you mean by First Contact. We can't help much with form
> regions, unless you provide complete details -- the registry entry, the XML
> file, and the location of the .ops file.

> The registry has no folders. It has keys. If the one you want isn't there
> already, add it. This is Registry 101:. Make a backup before you mess with
> it. You should be able to use either the HKCU or HKLM hive.

> I have no control over what material from my book is available through
> Google Books.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:EA26ABAA-55A0-46B1-99C2-91D0DE6E22E0@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > I just reread Chapter 5 and see where I missed the option to use
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. So I add key per instructions and re-booted. After
> > re-booting, I open a contact and don't see form region. How do I open
> > First
> > Contact to edit "debug" form and registry?
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

> "JoeRob" <JoeRob> wrote in message
> news:C69241CE-4A4C-4E6D-A0DC-751C9B863A33@microsoft.com...
> > Sue
> > I know I'm being a pest, but I'm just trying to understant (learn). You
> > convinced me I have to switch completely to form regions. OK, I'm I
> > switched. I found a copy of Chapter 5 from your book on the internet
> > and
> > after reading the chapter I tried to follow the example. I got as far as
> > changing the registry. Your example calls for
> > "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions ". On my
> > computer there is no folder "FormRegions" in "Outlook". See Fig 5.5. The
> > first folder that you show in Fig 5.5 "Addin" is there. When I look at
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and expand the folder, I find
> > "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\FormRegions" and the
> > contents of folder Outlook look like your Fig 5.5. Can I place the
> > example
> > in this folder. Will this work? How should I proceed?
> > PS: You mention chapter 4 in chapter 5. Is this chapter also on the
> > internet?
> > JoRob

> .
>

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

I'm glad to hear you got through the example!

I don't understand your question, though. Outlook determines what form

region(s) to load based on (a) the value of the MessageClass property of the

item, (b) the values associated with form region registrations in the

Windows registry, and (c) the XML manifest(s) for those regions.

Sue Mosher

"JoeRob" <jorob.roadrunner.com> wrote in message

news:A684233E-B808-4D0D-9F2F-59078409DDB3@microsoft.com...

> Sue
> You have been most patient with me and I thank you for your time. With
> your
> patents and Chapter 5 of your book (authorized or not) I completed the
> example in Chapter 5. Eventually I will understand what I did, or at
> least
> have some glimmer of the truth. Thanks you for your help
> PS: Just out of curiosity, since the first page of the Contact form is not
> the form we see when opening a Contact, how does outlook load that the
> correct form region? Or is that a dumb as my other questions.
> JoRob