Can I create custom subgroups on the ribbon?

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My company has just "upgrade" me to Outlook 2010. I have enjoyed customizing Outlook for my workflow, including quite a few simple macros and custom menu structures in Outlook 2007. That enabled me to do a lot of simple tasks using keyboard shortcuts, which I find are much faster than using the mouse. In Outlook 2007, I had macros arranged in nested menus that I could access using ALT-<letter>. Now, I'm finding that in Outlook 2010 the menus are gone, but I can create custom tabs and groups within the tabs. But I don't see that I can create nested groups... all I'm seeing is Tab, Group, Command. What I was hoping for would be something like the "New Items" subgroup in the "New" group on the "Home" tab. There are multiple commands under that "New Items" subgroup. So I was hoping to see a customizable "subgroup" that I could add to a group when I'm in the Options => Customize the Ribbon window. Am I just missing it, or is there a way to get something close to menu functionality in Outlook 2010?

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Rob
 
I've reviewed the videos on Access keys but the problem with them is they are not intuitive especially when I get down into my custom tab and custom groups and macros. Is there a way to assign user-selected access keys to tabs, groups, or commands on the (partially customizable) ribbon?
 
No, not in Outlook 2010 (or 2013) - the ribbon is notoriously bad for keyboard shortcuts. Alt+ keys are assigned automatically for navigating the ribbon (for accessibly) but by the time i type Alt+Y1Y5, i can scoot the mouse over and click. You can't assign your own shortcuts. The QAT is a little better, with shorter shortcuts.

If you are up to writing your own custom ribbon, you might be able to assign shortcuts - I'm not 100% sure, as this is an area where i didn't find it cost effective to spend time on, although I really need to write up a tutorial for it.
 
Also, I now have a custom tab with 5 custom groups and different numbers of Macro commands in each group. The symbols are different sizes! I don't want the symbols to be different sizes, I want them all to be the same size. Can I change that? (What I'd really like is no symbol, and just to be able to set up what keystroke combination would activate each command!)

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Rob
 
Diane, thank you for the reply. I noticed that the QAT might be more suited to keyboard shortcuts, but I have over 30 macros that I'd like access to via nested tree structure of some sort... I'm thinking the QAT is not going to be friendly for that... would you advise me otherwise?

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- Rob
 
While you can put a lot on the QAT, it gets unwieldy as you go over 10 - you get back into multiple key shortcuts. The ribbon doesn't support user-defined expanding menus, or even custom things like quick steps. I think you can add expanding menus if you write a custom ribbon (using xml). This would also allow you to use custom icons (and the only reason I'd want to do it.)
 
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