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ed

Hi all,

We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized

contact form for old existing and new contact.

I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html

to modify each indiviual user.

Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old

existing form?

thank you!
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

The application that you cited does what I think you're trying to do

convert old items to use the new form by changing the value of the

MessageClass property on each item so that it points to the published form's

class, e.g. IPM.Contact.MyForm. The page at

http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=39 has links to other scripts and

tools to do this.

Sue Mosher

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:A50CC33D-06DC-4796-B613-0E248D9EE163@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,

> We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
> contact form for old existing and new contact.

> I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
> to modify each indiviual user.

> Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
> existing form?

> thank you!
>
 
K

Karl Timmermans

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"

in all cases within your question.

#1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message

class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all

contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a

similar free message class change function)

#2 - Or is your question:

"(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders

(b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in

each user's contact folder OR ...

(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder

(d) without going to each user's computer?"

If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

Karl

______________________

ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr

"""

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:A50CC33D-06DC-4796-B613-0E248D9EE163@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,

> We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
> contact form for old existing and new contact.

> I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
> to modify each indiviual user.

> Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
> existing form?

> thank you!
>
 
E

ed

Thank you for your great help.

sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.

Yes. my question is:


> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact folder without going to each user's computer?"


We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.

we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form library

should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the new

customized folder?

Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )

"Karl Timmermans" wrote:


> What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
> in all cases within your question.

> #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message
> class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
> contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a
> similar free message class change function)

> #2 - Or is your question:
> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
> (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
> each user's contact folder OR ...
> (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder
> (d) without going to each user's computer?"

> If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

> Karl
> > ______________________
>

> ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> """
>

> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:A50CC33D-06DC-4796-B613-0E248D9EE163@microsoft.com...
> > Hi all,
> > We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
> > contact form for old existing and new contact.
> > I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
> > to modify each indiviual user.
> > Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
> > existing form?
> > thank you!
> >


> .
>
 
E

ed

Sorry and yes, my question is related to item #2.

We are using exchange 2003/outlook2003.

(c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder

You mean each user's outlook default contact folder and then yes. (not

public folders)

"Karl Timmermans" wrote:


> What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
> in all cases within your question.

> #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new message
> class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
> contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes a
> similar free message class change function)

> #2 - Or is your question:
> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
> (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
> each user's contact folder OR ...
> (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact folder
> (d) without going to each user's computer?"

> If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?

> Karl
> > ______________________
>

> ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> """
>

> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:A50CC33D-06DC-4796-B613-0E248D9EE163@microsoft.com...
> > Hi all,
> > We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
> > contact form for old existing and new contact.
> > I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
> > to modify each indiviual user.
> > Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for old
> > existing form?
> > thank you!
> >


> .
>
 
K

Karl Timmermans

Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from

where I sit -

#1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

#2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin

will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default

Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything

off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the

folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

#3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing

all

the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass

(as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that

matter)

requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I

believe I'm

correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then

processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and

would

be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each

user's

workstation.

Karl

______________________

ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr

"""

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for your great help.
> sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.
> Yes. my question is:

>
> > "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> > message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
> > folder without going to each user's computer?"


> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> library
> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
> new
> customized folder?

> Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )
> "Karl Timmermans" wrote:
>
> > What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
> > in all cases within your question.
>

>> #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new
> > message
> > class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
> > contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes
> > a
> > similar free message class change function)
>

>> #2 - Or is your question:
> > "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
> > (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
> > each user's contact folder OR ...
> > (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact
> > folder
> > (d) without going to each user's computer?"
>

>> If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?
>

>> Karl
> > > > ______________________
> >

> > ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> > """
> >

>

>
>
>> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > news:A50CC33D-06DC-4796-B613-0E248D9EE163@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi all,
> >> > We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
> > > contact form for old existing and new contact.
> >> > I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
> > > to modify each indiviual user.
> >> > Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for
> > > old
> > > existing form?
> >> > thank you!
> > >

>

>
>
>> .
> >
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

#2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or with

any low-level API addressing Outlook.

An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see

http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the

default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer

available at some future date.

If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would be

the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form regions

aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool

might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has

raised the idea of using a custom form.

Sue Mosher

"Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message

news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
> from
> where I sit -

> #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

> #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> admin
> will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> "Default
> Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> anything
> off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
> the
> folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

> #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
> all
> the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> DocMsgClass
> (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
> matter)
> requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
> believe I'm
> correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
> processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
> would
> be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
> user's
> workstation.

> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >
> >> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> >> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
> >> folder without going to each user's computer?"

>

>> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> > we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> > library
> > should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
> > new
> > customized folder?
 
K

Karl Timmermans

By low-level API - are you referring to things like Redemption? The default

folder MCls property shows as "read-only" or am I missing something

painfully obvious (very likely)?

Karl

______________________

ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr

"""

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" <suemvp@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23Pgq7CvjKHA.5604@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
> with any low-level API addressing Outlook.

> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
> available at some future date.

> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would
> be the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
> regions aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
> tool might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
> has raised the idea of using a custom form.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
> > from
> > where I sit -
>

>> #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
>

>> #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> > admin
> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> > "Default
> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> > anything
> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
> > the
> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
>

>> #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
> > all
> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> > DocMsgClass
> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
> > matter)
> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
> > believe I'm
> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
> > would
> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
> > user's
> > workstation.
>

>> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >
>>>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >
>>> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> >> library
> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
> >> new
> >> customized folder?


>
 
E

ed

Great thanks.
> #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library


will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch

org?


> Change Folder Default


To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or

to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've published

the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your

form from the When >posting to this folder list

I have to go toeach workstation to change folder default too, right? any

automatic way?

Thank you for your time and help.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote:


> Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but from
> where I sit -

> #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

> #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch admin
> will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the "Default
> Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of anything
> off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since the
> folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.

> #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
> all
> the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since DocMsgClass
> (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
> matter)
> requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
> believe I'm
> correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
> processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
> would
> be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
> user's
> workstation.

> Karl
> > ______________________
>

> ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> """
>

> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you for your great help.
> > sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.
> > Yes. my question is:
> >
> >> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> >> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
> >> folder without going to each user's computer?"

> > We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> > we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> > library
> > should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
> > new
> > customized folder?
> > Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )
> > "Karl Timmermans" wrote:
> >
> >> What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by "user"
> >> in all cases within your question.
> >
> >> #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new
> >> message
> >> class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
> >> contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also includes
> >> a
> >> similar free message class change function)
> >
> >> #2 - Or is your question:
> >> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
> >> (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts in
> >> each user's contact folder OR ...
> >> (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact
> >> folder
> >> (d) without going to each user's computer?"
> >
> >> If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?
> >
> >> Karl
> >> > >> ______________________
> >>

> >> ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> >> """
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> >> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> news:A50CC33D-06DC-4796-B613-0E248D9EE163@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> > We create the new contact form and we want users to use te customized
> >> > contact form for old existing and new contact.
> >> >> > I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
> >> > to modify each indiviual user.
> >> >> > Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form for
> >> > old
> >> > existing form?
> >> >> > thank you!
> >> >
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

Redemption, CDO 1.21, or ExMAPI. -- PR_DEF_POST_MSGCLASS

(http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E5001E) and

PR_DEF_POST_DISPLAYNAME

(http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E6001E)

Sue Mosher

"Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message

news:OZAZkfvjKHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> By low-level API - are you referring to things like Redemption? The
> default
> folder MCls property shows as "read-only" or am I missing something
> painfully obvious (very likely)?

> Karl
> > ______________________
>

> ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> """
>

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" <suemvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Pgq7CvjKHA.5604@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
> > with any low-level API addressing Outlook.
>

>> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> > news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
>>> #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> >> admin
> >> will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> >> "Default
> >> Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> >> anything
> >> off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
> >> the
> >> folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
 
E

ed

Sue,

Thanks for your help.

99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or with
> any low-level API addressing Outlook.

> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
> available at some future date.

> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would be
> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form regions
> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool
> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has
> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
> > from
> > where I sit -
> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> > admin
> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> > "Default
> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> > anything
> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
> > the
> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
> > all
> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> > DocMsgClass
> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
> > matter)
> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
> > believe I'm
> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
> > would
> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
> > user's
> > workstation.
> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >
> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's contact
> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >
> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> >> library
> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
> >> new
> >> customized folder?


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

> 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the information

in the article in the section under Change Folder Default


> what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.


Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form

Sue Mosher



> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
> > with
> > any low-level API addressing Outlook.
>

>> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
> > default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
> > available at some future date.
>

>> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would
> > be
> > the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
> > regions
> > aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool
> > might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has
> > raised the idea of using a custom form.
>

>> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> > news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
> > > from
> > > where I sit -
> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> > > admin
> > > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> > > "Default
> > > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> > > anything
> > > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
> > > since
> > > the
> > > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
> > > accessing
> > > all
> > > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> > > DocMsgClass
> > > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
> > > matter)
> > > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
> > > believe I'm
> > > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
> > > then
> > > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users
> > > and
> > > would
> > > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
> > > user's
> > > workstation.
> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> > >
>> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> > >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
> > >>> contact
> > >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> > >
>> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> > >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> > >> library
> > >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
> > >> the
> > >> new
> > >> customized folder?

>

>
>> .
> >
 
J

John

Sue,

Thank you and I am going to check it again.

will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch

org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each

user's contacts folder's Form tab?

Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

thank you again.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?


> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the information
> in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
>
> > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.


> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> > Sue Mosher
> > > >
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
> >> with
> >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> >
> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form the
> >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no longer
> >> available at some future date.
> >
> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region would
> >> be
> >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
> >> regions
> >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express tool
> >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need has
> >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> >
> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
> >> > from
> >> > where I sit -
> >> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> >> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> >> > admin
> >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> >> > "Default
> >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> >> > anything
> >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
> >> > since
> >> > the
> >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> >> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
> >> > accessing
> >> > all
> >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> >> > DocMsgClass
> >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
> >> > matter)
> >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
> >> > believe I'm
> >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
> >> > then
> >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users
> >> > and
> >> > would
> >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
> >> > user's
> >> > workstation.
> >> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
> >> >>> contact
> >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >> >
> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> >> >> library
> >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
> >> >> the
> >> >> new
> >> >> customized folder?
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change the

current behavior of existing or future contacts.

Sue Mosher

"John" <John> wrote in message

news:C99A95D5-E2C4-4CEA-B884-0C7068AF6A3E@microsoft.com...
> Sue,

> Thank you and I am going to check it again.

> will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
> org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
> user's contacts folder's Form tab?

> Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?

> thank you again.

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?

>

>> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
> > information
> > in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
> >
> > > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.

>

>> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> > > > Sue Mosher
> > >> >> >>
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
> > >> with
> > >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> > >
>> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
> > >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
> > >> the
> > >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
> > >> longer
> > >> available at some future date.
> > >
>> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
> > >> would
> > >> be
> > >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
> > >> regions
> > >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
> > >> tool
> > >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
> > >> has
> > >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> > >
>> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer
> > >> > but
> > >> > from
> > >> > where I sit -
> > >>> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> > >>> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
> > >> > Exch
> > >> > admin
> > >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> > >> > "Default
> > >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> > >> > anything
> > >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
> > >> > since
> > >> > the
> > >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> > >>> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
> > >> > accessing
> > >> > all
> > >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> > >> > DocMsgClass
> > >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
> > >> > that
> > >> > matter)
> > >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile
> > >> > (I
> > >> > believe I'm
> > >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
> > >> > then
> > >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
> > >> > users
> > >> > and
> > >> > would
> > >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
> > >> > each
> > >> > user's
> > >> > workstation.
> > >>> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> > >> >
>> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
> > >> >>> new
> > >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
> > >> >>> contact
> > >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> > >> >
>> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> > >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
> > >> >> form
> > >> >> library
> > >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> new
> > >> >> customized folder?
> > >
>> >
>> >> .
> > >>

>

>
>> .
> >
 
E

ed

sue,

Thank you for clearing my understandings.

So, I have to follow

<<Change Folder Default

To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or

to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've published

the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your

form from the When posting to this folder list.>
to change everyone's contact folder default.

Can registry key take care of above?

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms

what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow

custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.

Can you help me?

Great thanks!

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change the
> current behavior of existing or future contacts.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "John" <John> wrote in message
> news:C99A95D5-E2C4-4CEA-B884-0C7068AF6A3E@microsoft.com...
> > Sue,
> > Thank you and I am going to check it again.
> > will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
> > org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
> > user's contacts folder's Form tab?
> > Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?
> > thank you again.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?
> >
> >> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
> >> information
> >> in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
> >
> >> > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.
> >
> >> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> >> > >> Sue Mosher
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
> >> >> with
> >> >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> >> >
> >> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method (see
> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
> >> >> the
> >> >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
> >> >> longer
> >> >> available at some future date.
> >> >
> >> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
> >> >> would
> >> >> be
> >> >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture, form
> >> >> regions
> >> >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
> >> >> tool
> >> >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
> >> >> has
> >> >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> >> >
> >> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > where I sit -
> >> >> >> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> >> >> >> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
> >> >> > Exch
> >> >> > admin
> >> >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> >> >> > "Default
> >> >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> >> >> > anything
> >> >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
> >> >> > since
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> >> >> >> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
> >> >> > accessing
> >> >> > all
> >> >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> >> >> > DocMsgClass
> >> >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > matter)
> >> >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile
> >> >> > (I
> >> >> > believe I'm
> >> >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and
> >> >> > then
> >> >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
> >> >> > users
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
> >> >> > each
> >> >> > user's
> >> >> > workstation.
> >> >> >> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
> >> >> >>> new
> >> >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
> >> >> >>> contact
> >> >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> >> >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> library
> >> >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> customized folder?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> .
> >> >
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
K

Karl Timmermans

Thanks Sue - never fails - always seems like the easiest and most

obvious is the most difficult to see.

Karl

______________________

ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr

"""

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" <suemvp@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23dAXB%23vjKHA.1824@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Redemption, CDO 1.21, or ExMAPI. -- PR_DEF_POST_MSGCLASS
> (http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E5001E) and
> PR_DEF_POST_DISPLAYNAME
> (http://schemas.microsoft.com/mapi/proptag/0x36E6001E)
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> news:OZAZkfvjKHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > By low-level API - are you referring to things like Redemption? The
> > default
> > folder MCls property shows as "read-only" or am I missing something
> > painfully obvious (very likely)?
>

>> Karl
> > > > ______________________
> >

> > ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> > """
> >

>

>> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" <suemvp@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23Pgq7CvjKHA.5604@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object or
> >> with any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> >
>>> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>
>>>> #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> >>> admin
> >>> will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> >>> "Default
> >>> Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> >>> anything
> >>> off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk
> >>> since the
> >>> folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.


>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global. Each

is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for

your scenario.

If you decide to change the global default by using the registry

substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using the

Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg

data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry

changes to users' desktops.

Sue Mosher

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:99885B55-B6D0-48DA-8752-BDA3C0032CCC@microsoft.com...
> sue,

> Thank you for clearing my understandings.

> So, I have to follow

> <<Change Folder Default
> To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
> to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> published
> the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
> form from the When posting to this folder list.> to change everyone's contact folder default.

> Can registry key take care of above?

> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
> what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
> custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
> Can you help me?

> Great thanks!

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change
> > the
> > current behavior of existing or future contacts.
>

>> "John" <John> wrote in message
> > news:C99A95D5-E2C4-4CEA-B884-0C7068AF6A3E@microsoft.com...
> > > Sue,
> >> > Thank you and I am going to check it again.
> >> > will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the
> > > exch
> > > org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
> > > user's contacts folder's Form tab?
> >> > Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?
> >> > thank you again.
> >>>> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?
> > >
>> >> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
> > >> information
> > >> in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
> > >
>> >> > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.
> > >
>> >> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> > >> > > >> Sue Mosher
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> > >>> >> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object
> > >> >> or
> > >> >> with
> > >> >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> > >> >
>> >> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
> > >> >> (see
> > >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
> > >> >> longer
> > >> >> available at some future date.
> > >> >
>> >> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
> > >> >> would
> > >> >> be
> > >> >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
> > >> >> form
> > >> >> regions
> > >> >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
> > >> >> tool
> > >> >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
> > >> >> has
> > >> >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> > >> >
>> >> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
> > >> >> > answer
> > >> >> > but
> > >> >> > from
> > >> >> > where I sit -
> > >> >>> >> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> > >> >>> >> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
> > >> >> > Exch
> > >> >> > admin
> > >> >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > "Default
> > >> >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware
> > >> >> > of
> > >> >> > anything
> > >> >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
> > >> >> > bulk
> > >> >> > since
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> > >> >>> >> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
> > >> >> > accessing
> > >> >> > all
> > >> >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> > >> >> > DocMsgClass
> > >> >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
> > >> >> > that
> > >> >> > matter)
> > >> >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
> > >> >> > profile
> > >> >> > (I
> > >> >> > believe I'm
> > >> >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > then
> > >> >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
> > >> >> > users
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > would
> > >> >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
> > >> >> > each
> > >> >> > user's
> > >> >> > workstation.
> > >> >>> >> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> >
>> >> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
> > >> >> >>> new
> > >> >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
> > >> >> >>> contact
> > >> >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> > >> >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
> > >> >> >> form
> > >> >> >> library
> > >> >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to
> > >> >> >> use
> > >> >> >> the
> > >> >> >> new
> > >> >> >> customized folder?
> > >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> .
> > >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> .
> > >>

>

>
>> .
> >
 
K

Karl Timmermans

With no intention of duplicating answers already posted by Sue....

#1 - Changing workstations

Bottomline - each individual workstation needs to be changed in

terms of the default folder msgclass - either directly (which ever

method is chosen based on other responses) or via the method I

described in original answer

#2 - Automatic method to change default for folders?

None that I am aware of at present with anything that exists but will

easily stand corrected on that if someone knows of something. And

remember, once the default msg class has been changed - still need

to run something like DocMsgClass or the MCls Change function in

CG Toolkit to change existing contact items.

There is going to be functionality added to CG Toolkit to address

both of the issues described in item#2 at some point but that

unfortunately doesn't help you with the task at hand today.

Karl

______________________

ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr

"""

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:9DB3C64B-8288-4294-8099-9B09FE1CC068@microsoft.com...
> Great thanks.
> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library

> will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the exch
> org?
>
> >Change Folder Default

> To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
> to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> published
> the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
> form from the When >posting to this folder list

> I have to go toeach workstation to change folder default too, right? any
> automatic way?

> Thank you for your time and help.

> "Karl Timmermans" wrote:
>
> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete answer but
> > from
> > where I sit -
>

>> #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
>

>> #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the Exch
> > admin
> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change the
> > "Default
> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware of
> > anything
> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in bulk since
> > the
> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
>

>> #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be accessing
> > all
> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> > DocMsgClass
> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for that
> > matter)
> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook profile (I
> > believe I'm
> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile and then
> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800 users and
> > would
> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to each
> > user's
> > workstation.
>

>> Karl
> > > > ______________________
> >

> > ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact Mgr
> > """
> >

>

>
>> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> > > Thank you for your great help.
> > > sorry about that I did not state my questions clearly.
> > > Yes. my question is:
> >>> >> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a new
> > >> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
> > >> contact
> > >> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >> > We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> > > we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which form
> > > library
> > > should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to use the
> > > new
> > > customized folder?
> >> > Thank you and thank you. (we have around 800 users )
> > > "Karl Timmermans" wrote:
> >> >> What exactly is/are your question(s)? Not clear what you mean by
> > >> "user"
> > >> in all cases within your question.
> > >
>> >> #1 - If it is purely on how to change existing contacts to use a new
> > >> message
> > >> class - then DocMsgClass is definitely all you will need to change all
> > >> contacts in any given contact folder (ContactGenie Toolkit also
> > >> includes
> > >> a
> > >> similar free message class change function)
> > >
>> >> #2 - Or is your question:
> > >> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders
> > >> (b) to use a new message class for both new and existing contacts
> > >> in
> > >> each user's contact folder OR ...
> > >> (c) have all users use the same custom form for a public contact
> > >> folder
> > >> (d) without going to each user's computer?"
> > >
>> >> If any part of it relates to item #2 - are you using Exchange?
> > >
>> >> Karl
> > >> > > >> ______________________
> > >>

> > >> ContactGenie - QuickPort/DataPort/Exporter/Toolkit/Duplicate Contact
> > >> Mgr
> > >> """
> > >>

> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > >> news:A50CC33D-06DC-4796-B613-0E248D9EE163@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >>> >> > We create the new contact form and we want users to use te
> > >> > customized
> > >> > contact form for old existing and new contact.
> > >>> >> > I found this http://www.plustech.co.uk/Products/docmsgclass.html
> > >> > to modify each indiviual user.
> > >>> >> > Are there a way to change all users to use the new customized form
> > >> > for
> > >> > old
> > >> > existing form?
> > >>> >> > thank you!
> > >>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> .
> > >>

>

>
>
>> .
> >
 
E

ed

Thank you! I really do not know two different types of defaults -- folder

and global

If I publish the new contact form to the exch. org form, I need to change

the folder

default as the follows and then conver the existing contacts if needed


> <<Change Folder Default
> To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
> to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> published
> the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
> form from the When posting to this folder list.> to change everyone's contact folder default


Any automatic way to change folder default?

thank you for your time and knowledge.

I really appreciate it.

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:


> You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global. Each
> is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for
> your scenario.

> If you decide to change the global default by using the registry
> substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using the
> Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg
> data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry
> changes to users' desktops.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >

> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:99885B55-B6D0-48DA-8752-BDA3C0032CCC@microsoft.com...
> > sue,
> > Thank you for clearing my understandings.
> > So, I have to follow
> > <<Change Folder Default
> > To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder or
> > to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> > published
> > the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select your
> > form from the When posting to this folder list.>
> > to change everyone's contact folder default.
> > Can registry key take care of above?
> > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
> > what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
> > custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
> > Can you help me?
> > Great thanks!
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not change
> >> the
> >> current behavior of existing or future contacts.
> >
> >> "John" <John> wrote in message
> >> news:C99A95D5-E2C4-4CEA-B884-0C7068AF6A3E@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sue,
> >> >> > Thank you and I am going to check it again.
> >> >> > will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to the
> >> > exch
> >> > org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in each
> >> > user's contacts folder's Form tab?
> >> >> > Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?
> >> >> > thank you again.
> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?
> >> >
> >> >> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
> >> >> information
> >> >> in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
> >> >
> >> >> > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.
> >> >
> >> >> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> >> >> > >> >> Sue Mosher
> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor object
> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
> >> >> >> (see
> >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new form
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is no
> >> >> >> longer
> >> >> >> available at some future date.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form region
> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> regions
> >> >> >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in Express
> >> >> >> tool
> >> >> >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business need
> >> >> >> has
> >> >> >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
> >> >> >> > answer
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > where I sit -
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then the
> >> >> >> > Exch
> >> >> >> > admin
> >> >> >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > "Default
> >> >> >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not aware
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > anything
> >> >> >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
> >> >> >> > bulk
> >> >> >> > since
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to be
> >> >> >> > accessing
> >> >> >> > all
> >> >> >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts since
> >> >> >> > DocMsgClass
> >> >> >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function for
> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> > matter)
> >> >> >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
> >> >> >> > profile
> >> >> >> > (I
> >> >> >> > believe I'm
> >> >> >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a profile
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with 800
> >> >> >> > users
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > would
> >> >> >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going to
> >> >> >> > each
> >> >> >> > user's
> >> >> >> > workstation.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to use a
> >> >> >> >>> new
> >> >> >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each user's
> >> >> >> >>> contact
> >> >> >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> >> >> >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder. Which
> >> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> >> library
> >> >> >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder to
> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> customized folder?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> .
> >> >
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>


> .
>
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP]

> Any automatic way to change folder default?

As we've already discussed in this thread, no.

Sue Mosher

"ed" <ed> wrote in message

news:712D4EC2-2D18-459F-9748-AD101DC07DF2@microsoft.com...
> Thank you! I really do not know two different types of defaults -- folder
> and global

> If I publish the new contact form to the exch. org form, I need to change
> the folder
> default as the follows and then conver the existing contacts if needed
>
> > <<Change Folder Default
> > To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
> > or
> > to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> > published
> > the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
> > your
> > form from the When posting to this folder list.>
>
>> to change everyone's contact folder default


> Any automatic way to change folder default?

> thank you for your time and knowledge.

> I really appreciate it.

> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global.
> > Each
> > is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for
> > your scenario.
>

>> If you decide to change the global default by using the registry
> > substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using
> > the
> > Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg
> > data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry
> > changes to users' desktops.



>

>> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > news:99885B55-B6D0-48DA-8752-BDA3C0032CCC@microsoft.com...
> > > sue,
> >> > Thank you for clearing my understandings.
> >> > So, I have to follow
> >> > <<Change Folder Default
> > > To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
> > > or
> > > to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> > > published
> > > the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
> > > your
> > > form from the When posting to this folder list.>
>>> > to change everyone's contact folder default.
> >> > Can registry key take care of above?
> >> > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
> > > what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
> > > custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
> > > Can you help me?
> >> > Great thanks!
> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not
> > >> change
> > >> the
> > >> current behavior of existing or future contacts.
> > >
>> >> "John" <John> wrote in message
> > >> news:C99A95D5-E2C4-4CEA-B884-0C7068AF6A3E@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Sue,
> > >>> >> > Thank you and I am going to check it again.
> > >>> >> > will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to
> > >> > the
> > >> > exch
> > >> > org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in
> > >> > each
> > >> > user's contacts folder's Form tab?
> > >>> >> > Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?
> > >>> >> > thank you again.
> > >>> >>> >>> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> > >>> >> >> > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?
> > >> >
>> >> >> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
> > >> >> information
> > >> >> in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
> > >> >
>> >> >> > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.
> > >> >
>> >> >> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> > >> >> > > >> >> Sue Mosher
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> > >> >>> >> >> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor
> > >> >> >> object
> > >> >> >> or
> > >> >> >> with
> > >> >> >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
> > >> >> >> (see
> > >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new
> > >> >> >> form
> > >> >> >> the
> > >> >> >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is
> > >> >> >> no
> > >> >> >> longer
> > >> >> >> available at some future date.
> > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form
> > >> >> >> region
> > >> >> >> would
> > >> >> >> be
> > >> >> >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
> > >> >> >> form
> > >> >> >> regions
> > >> >> >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in
> > >> >> >> Express
> > >> >> >> tool
> > >> >> >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business
> > >> >> >> need
> > >> >> >> has
> > >> >> >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> >> >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
> > >> >> >> > answer
> > >> >> >> > but
> > >> >> >> > from
> > >> >> >> > where I sit -
> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then
> > >> >> >> > the
> > >> >> >> > Exch
> > >> >> >> > admin
> > >> >> >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
> > >> >> >> > the
> > >> >> >> > "Default
> > >> >> >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not
> > >> >> >> > aware
> > >> >> >> > of
> > >> >> >> > anything
> > >> >> >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
> > >> >> >> > bulk
> > >> >> >> > since
> > >> >> >> > the
> > >> >> >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to
> > >> >> >> > be
> > >> >> >> > accessing
> > >> >> >> > all
> > >> >> >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts
> > >> >> >> > since
> > >> >> >> > DocMsgClass
> > >> >> >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function
> > >> >> >> > for
> > >> >> >> > that
> > >> >> >> > matter)
> > >> >> >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
> > >> >> >> > profile
> > >> >> >> > (I
> > >> >> >> > believe I'm
> > >> >> >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a
> > >> >> >> > profile
> > >> >> >> > and
> > >> >> >> > then
> > >> >> >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with
> > >> >> >> > 800
> > >> >> >> > users
> > >> >> >> > and
> > >> >> >> > would
> > >> >> >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going
> > >> >> >> > to
> > >> >> >> > each
> > >> >> >> > user's
> > >> >> >> > workstation.
> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> > >> >> >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to
> > >> >> >> >>> use a
> > >> >> >> >>> new
> > >> >> >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each
> > >> >> >> >>> user's
> > >> >> >> >>> contact
> > >> >> >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> > >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> > >> >> >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder.
> > >> >> >> >> Which
> > >> >> >> >> form
> > >> >> >> >> library
> > >> >> >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder
> > >> >> >> >> to
> > >> >> >> >> use
> > >> >> >> >> the
> > >> >> >> >> new
> > >> >> >> >> customized folder?
> > >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> .
> > >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> .
> > >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> .
> > >>

>

>
>> .
> >
 
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