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ed
Thank you.
So what the substitute key does?
BTW, are these right steps to use the customized forms:
1) Publish the new form to exch. org
2) change each user's folder default
3) Convert the existing contacts if needed
Thank you for ALL your help.
"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> > Any automatic way to change folder default?
> As we've already discussed in this thread, no.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >
> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:712D4EC2-2D18-459F-9748-AD101DC07DF2@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you! I really do not know two different types of defaults -- folder
> > and global
> > If I publish the new contact form to the exch. org form, I need to change
> > the folder
> > default as the follows and then conver the existing contacts if needed
> >
> >> <<Change Folder Default
> >> To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
> >> or
> >> to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> >> published
> >> the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
> >> your
> >> form from the When posting to this folder list.>
> >
> >> to change everyone's contact folder default
> > Any automatic way to change folder default?
> > thank you for your time and knowledge.
> > I really appreciate it.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global.
> >> Each
> >> is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for
> >> your scenario.
> >
> >> If you decide to change the global default by using the registry
> >> substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using
> >> the
> >> Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg
> >> data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry
> >> changes to users' desktops.
>
> >
> >> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> news:99885B55-B6D0-48DA-8752-BDA3C0032CCC@microsoft.com...
> >> > sue,
> >> >> > Thank you for clearing my understandings.
> >> >> > So, I have to follow
> >> >> > <<Change Folder Default
> >> > To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
> >> > or
> >> > to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> >> > published
> >> > the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
> >> > your
> >> > form from the When posting to this folder list.>
> >> >> > to change everyone's contact folder default.
> >> >> > Can registry key take care of above?
> >> >> > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
> >> > what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
> >> > custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
> >> > Can you help me?
> >> >> > Great thanks!
> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not
> >> >> change
> >> >> the
> >> >> current behavior of existing or future contacts.
> >> >
> >> >> "John" <John> wrote in message
> >> >> news:C99A95D5-E2C4-4CEA-B884-0C7068AF6A3E@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Sue,
> >> >> >> >> > Thank you and I am going to check it again.
> >> >> >> >> > will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > exch
> >> >> > org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in
> >> >> > each
> >> >> > user's contacts folder's Form tab?
> >> >> >> >> > Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?
> >> >> >> >> > thank you again.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
> >> >> >> information
> >> >> >> in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sue Mosher
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor
> >> >> >> >> object
> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
> >> >> >> >> (see
> >> >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new
> >> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is
> >> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> >> longer
> >> >> >> >> available at some future date.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form
> >> >> >> >> region
> >> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
> >> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> >> regions
> >> >> >> >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in
> >> >> >> >> Express
> >> >> >> >> tool
> >> >> >> >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business
> >> >> >> >> need
> >> >> >> >> has
> >> >> >> >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
> >> >> >> >> > answer
> >> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> >> > where I sit -
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > Exch
> >> >> >> >> > admin
> >> >> >> >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > "Default
> >> >> >> >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not
> >> >> >> >> > aware
> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> > anything
> >> >> >> >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
> >> >> >> >> > bulk
> >> >> >> >> > since
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to
> >> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> > accessing
> >> >> >> >> > all
> >> >> >> >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts
> >> >> >> >> > since
> >> >> >> >> > DocMsgClass
> >> >> >> >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function
> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> > matter)
> >> >> >> >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
> >> >> >> >> > profile
> >> >> >> >> > (I
> >> >> >> >> > believe I'm
> >> >> >> >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a
> >> >> >> >> > profile
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with
> >> >> >> >> > 800
> >> >> >> >> > users
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > would
> >> >> >> >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > each
> >> >> >> >> > user's
> >> >> >> >> > workstation.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to
> >> >> >> >> >>> use a
> >> >> >> >> >>> new
> >> >> >> >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each
> >> >> >> >> >>> user's
> >> >> >> >> >>> contact
> >> >> >> >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> >> >> >> >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder.
> >> >> >> >> >> Which
> >> >> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> >> >> library
> >> >> >> >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder
> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> >> customized folder?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> .
> >> >
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>
> .
>
So what the substitute key does?
BTW, are these right steps to use the customized forms:
1) Publish the new form to exch. org
2) change each user's folder default
3) Convert the existing contacts if needed
Thank you for ALL your help.
"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> > Any automatic way to change folder default?
> As we've already discussed in this thread, no.
> > Sue Mosher
> > >
> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> news:712D4EC2-2D18-459F-9748-AD101DC07DF2@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you! I really do not know two different types of defaults -- folder
> > and global
> > If I publish the new contact form to the exch. org form, I need to change
> > the folder
> > default as the follows and then conver the existing contacts if needed
> >
> >> <<Change Folder Default
> >> To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
> >> or
> >> to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> >> published
> >> the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
> >> your
> >> form from the When posting to this folder list.>
> >
> >> to change everyone's contact folder default
> > Any automatic way to change folder default?
> > thank you for your time and knowledge.
> > I really appreciate it.
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> You've mixed up two different types of defaults -- folder and global.
> >> Each
> >> is implemented differently. You must choose which is more appropriate for
> >> your scenario.
> >
> >> If you decide to change the global default by using the registry
> >> substitution method, follow the instructions in that article about using
> >> the
> >> Microsoft tool and exporting a .reg key. You may be able to use that .reg
> >> data with other tools that your organization has for deploying registry
> >> changes to users' desktops.
>
> >
> >> "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> news:99885B55-B6D0-48DA-8752-BDA3C0032CCC@microsoft.com...
> >> > sue,
> >> >> > Thank you for clearing my understandings.
> >> >> > So, I have to follow
> >> >> > <<Change Folder Default
> >> > To make a form the default for a folder, publish the form to the folder
> >> > or
> >> > to the Organizational Forms library on Exchange server. Once you've
> >> > published
> >> > the form, right-click the folder, and choose Properties. Then, select
> >> > your
> >> > form from the When posting to this folder list.>
> >> >> > to change everyone's contact folder default.
> >> >> > Can registry key take care of above?
> >> >> > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\Custom Forms
> >> > what exactly Custom Forms key value? Do you have the exact key follow
> >> > custom forms? my new form is IP.contact.NEW.
> >> > Can you help me?
> >> >> > Great thanks!
> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> Publishing the form only makes it available to users. It does not
> >> >> change
> >> >> the
> >> >> current behavior of existing or future contacts.
> >> >
> >> >> "John" <John> wrote in message
> >> >> news:C99A95D5-E2C4-4CEA-B884-0C7068AF6A3E@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Sue,
> >> >> >> >> > Thank you and I am going to check it again.
> >> >> >> >> > will it change the new contact form for all users if I publish to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > exch
> >> >> > org? It seems that I have to select the customized contact form in
> >> >> > each
> >> >> > user's contacts folder's Form tab?
> >> >> >> >> > Is this supposed to be? or am I missing something?
> >> >> >> >> > thank you again.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > 99% of users are using outlook 2003. any alternate way?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> See my response to Karl's question about low-level APIs and the
> >> >> >> information
> >> >> >> in the article in the section under Change Folder Default
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > what's the registry change? I did not see in the link.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Read the article's section on Substitute Default Form
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sue Mosher
> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> #2 can be done easily with the Outlook 2007 PropertyAccessor
> >> >> >> >> object
> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> >> any low-level API addressing Outlook.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> An alternative might be to use the registry substitution method
> >> >> >> >> (see
> >> >> >> >> http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?ID=39) to make the new
> >> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> default for all contacts, but that can get messy if the form is
> >> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> >> longer
> >> >> >> >> available at some future date.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> If all users were using Outlook 2007, an add-in using a form
> >> >> >> >> region
> >> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> the preferred solution. Because Outlook 2003 is in the picture,
> >> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> >> regions
> >> >> >> >> aren't an option here, but an add-in built with the Add-in
> >> >> >> >> Express
> >> >> >> >> tool
> >> >> >> >> might be a more stable, reliable solution to whatever business
> >> >> >> >> need
> >> >> >> >> has
> >> >> >> >> raised the idea of using a custom form.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Karl Timmermans" <karl@claxton.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:OiKKV4ujKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> > Sue (or anyone else) may offer a better and/or more complete
> >> >> >> >> > answer
> >> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> >> > where I sit -
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #1) The form should be published to the Exch Org Forms library
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #2) If you do not want to go to each person's computer - then
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > Exch
> >> >> >> >> > admin
> >> >> >> >> > will need to access each individual's contact folder to change
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > "Default
> >> >> >> >> > Msg Class" for the folder to the new custom form name. Not
> >> >> >> >> > aware
> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> > anything
> >> >> >> >> > off hand that allows changing this programmatically and/or in
> >> >> >> >> > bulk
> >> >> >> >> > since
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > folder DefaultMsgClass property is read-only.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #3) The real problem (and time consuming effort) is going to
> >> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> > accessing
> >> >> >> >> > all
> >> >> >> >> > the user's contact folders to change the existing contacts
> >> >> >> >> > since
> >> >> >> >> > DocMsgClass
> >> >> >> >> > (as does the current equivalent CG Toolkit MsgClass function
> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> > matter)
> >> >> >> >> > requires that the target contact folder appear in an Outlook
> >> >> >> >> > profile
> >> >> >> >> > (I
> >> >> >> >> > believe I'm
> >> >> >> >> > correct on that) which would mean adding each user to a
> >> >> >> >> > profile
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> > processing the contact folder. That could take a while with
> >> >> >> >> > 800
> >> >> >> >> > users
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > would
> >> >> >> >> > be a tedious process but may still be easier/faster than going
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > each
> >> >> >> >> > user's
> >> >> >> >> > workstation.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "ed" <ed> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > news:FE8C8681-835F-4149-B011-0E5912D63969@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>> "(a) how do I change multiple user contact folders to
> >> >> >> >> >>> use a
> >> >> >> >> >>> new
> >> >> >> >> >>> message class for both new and existing contacts in each
> >> >> >> >> >>> user's
> >> >> >> >> >>> contact
> >> >> >> >> >>> folder without going to each user's computer?"
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> We are using exchange2003/outlook2003/outlook2007.
> >> >> >> >> >> we need to change users's oulook default contact folder.
> >> >> >> >> >> Which
> >> >> >> >> >> form
> >> >> >> >> >> library
> >> >> >> >> >> should I publish to and every user's default contacts folder
> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> >> customized folder?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> .
> >> >
> >
> >
> >> .
> >>
> .
>
